4GB memory card for w800i- waste of time or worth the money?

VonClinkerhofen · 8 Jul 2006 at 17:46

If this has been repeated I apologise but I have tried searching. I have a w810i and it holds about 90 or so songs on the memory card which is 512mb.
There are 4GB sandisk cards available on ebay for about £30-£40. If I buy one of these and put it in my phone will it work? ie will the capacity of my phone to hold mp3s increase 8 fold? It seems to me that there shouldn't be any logical reason why not, but I was thinking maybe either the mobile phone company or Sony may have put some technological jiggery pokery on the phone to stop this self upgarding. I mean if they were to bring out a better phone with a larger memory you wouldn't want to upgrade your phone when you could just upgrade the memory stick. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Anyone actually performed this without any problems? I am on O2 contract if it makes any difference. And I haven't flashed my phone either

*For the pedants out there, Yes I now realise I typed w800 and I meant w810, but I have a hangover so forgive me*

Energize · 8 Jul 2006 at 17:57

That phone only supports up to 2Gb memory cards. Some phones dont have a limit though.

VonClinkerhofen · 8 Jul 2006 at 18:17

Energize said:
That phone only supports up to 2Gb memory cards. Some phones dont have a limit though.

thanks. Off to buy 2GB card now then.

Aruffell · 8 Jul 2006 at 18:32

VonClinkerhofen said:
If this has been repeated I apologise but I have tried searching. I have a w810i and it holds about 90 or so songs on the memory card which is 512mb.
There are 4GB sandisk cards available on ebay for about £30-£40. If I buy one of these and put it in my phone will it work? ie will the capacity of my phone to hold mp3s increase 8 fold? It seems to me that there shouldn't be any logical reason why not, but I was thinking maybe either the mobile phone company or Sony may have put some technological jiggery pokery on the phone to stop this self upgarding. I mean if they were to bring out a better phone with a larger memory you wouldn't want to upgrade your phone when you could just upgrade the memory stick. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Anyone actually performed this without any problems? I am on O2 contract if it makes any difference. And I haven't flashed my phone either

*For the pedants out there, Yes I now realise I typed w800 and I meant w810, but I have a hangover so forgive me*

Are you putting songs with the highest bitrate on there

You can fit 250 odd songs on a 512mb card.

It's a phone with ONE speaker, cut the quality down of your songs mate :eek:

Andy

Energize · 8 Jul 2006 at 18:54

Aruffell said:
Are you putting songs with the highest bitrate on there

You can fit 250 odd songs on a 512mb card.

It's a phone with ONE speaker, cut the quality down of your songs mate

Andy

128Kbps is one of the lowest bitrates people use and is generally accepted as the lowest acceptable quality for mp3s. People listen to mp3s through stereo headphones not the speaker. Sony's phones arent ideal for listening to music on because they cant play wma or ogg.

Ste · 8 Jul 2006 at 19:25

almost certainly fake sandisk cards likely to fail after a while and stuff your data

VonClinkerhofen · 9 Jul 2006 at 14:41

Damn it just bought one...THEN...decided I'd see if anyone had replied to my thread...(Why I did it in that order I do not know)

I paid £31 inc P&P for a 2GB sandisk....Never even crossed my mind that I would be buying a fake card...there are currently about 1500 for sale on ebay and thats just the ones with 2GB capacity. But they all go for around £30 so if it's fake I could always re sell it.

Not too bothered if my data gets lost and or corrupted it's only music and it's all backed up on CDs.

As for the guy that said I should cut down the quality of my songs. It's not really good forum ettiquette to discuss the whys and where fors of mp3 downloading etc so lets just leave it there.

gib786 · 9 Jul 2006 at 14:49

i personally convert any track thats going on my phone to .aac as the bitrate to file size ration is v good

VonClinkerhofen · 9 Jul 2006 at 16:44

gib786 said:
i personally convert any track thats going on my phone to .aac as the bitrate to file size ration is v good

I'm afraid you're going to have to dumb it down a little.

Firstly would a SE w810i play this type of file?

And secondly if it would, how do you convert an .mp3 into a .aac? (I assume you do it with a specific programme designed for just that)

Thirdly where would I get such a handy little programme and would I have to pay for it?

gib786 · 9 Jul 2006 at 17:35

VonClinkerhofen said:
I'm afraid you're going to have to dumb it down a little.

Firstly would a SE w810i play this type of file?
yup it should play fine

And secondly if it would, how do you convert an .mp3 into a .aac? (I assume you do it with a specific programme designed for just that)
you use dbpoweramp which has a variety of diff conversion settings, personally i do it at 128k and music still sounds fine to me

Thirdly where would I get such a handy little programme and would I have to pay for it?
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/ download the convertor and the .aac codecs from the codec bit, it costs $14 if you buy it but the trial version works for 30 days

Aruffell · 9 Jul 2006 at 18:38

VonClinkerhofen said:
Damn it just bought one...THEN...decided I'd see if anyone had replied to my thread...(Why I did it in that order I do not know)

I paid £31 inc P&P for a 2GB sandisk....Never even crossed my mind that I would be buying a fake card...there are currently about 1500 for sale on ebay and thats just the ones with 2GB capacity. But they all go for around £30 so if it's fake I could always re sell it.

Not too bothered if my data gets lost and or corrupted it's only music and it's all backed up on CDs.

As for the guy that said I should cut down the quality of my songs. It's not really good forum ettiquette to discuss the whys and where fors of mp3 downloading etc so lets just leave it there.

I didn't say anything about downloading so i don't know where you saw me talk about that.

I was clearly stating to dumb down the quality which is perfectly legal.

Could be songs that you've sung, not downloaded tracks. Shame on you

Andy

Energize · 9 Jul 2006 at 18:46

VonClinkerhofen said:
As for the guy that said I should cut down the quality of my songs. It's not really good forum ettiquette to discuss the whys and where fors of mp3 downloading etc so lets just leave it there.

The bitrate of songs has nothing to do with downloading them legally/illegaly or buying the cd. Its simply the quality setting used to transcode them with.

Quite a few people say that at 128Kbps you should use mp3 as its better than aac at low bitrates. If you have an mp3 file you should definatley not convert it to aac anyway.

Bes · 9 Jul 2006 at 19:00

Can you not install an ogg player and convert your songs to *.ogg? I used to be able to get loads of music on my P900 that way... <3 ogg

Energize · 9 Jul 2006 at 19:10

It doesnt have an os like palm/symbian/windows so its very unlikely.

JustinB · 10 Jul 2006 at 19:12

Energize said:
That phone only supports up to 2Gb memory cards. Some phones dont have a limit though.

Could i ask you where you got that information from?

I have a 4GB card which works in my w900i, also worked in my w800i. No reason at all why it wont work in the w810i as it is a newer phone that both.

If it is what you have read in the Sony Ericsson manuals, then obviously they will say that they only support 2GB cards. As that was the highest available capacity out at the time.

I paid £130 for my 4GB pro duo not from ebay though.

Energize · 10 Jul 2006 at 19:26

JustinB said:
Could i ask you where you got that information from?

I have a 4GB card which works in my w900i, also worked in my w800i. No reason at all why it wont work in the w810i as it is a newer phone that both.

If it is what you have read in the Sony Ericsson manuals, then obviously they will say that they only support 2GB cards. As that was the highest available capacity out at the time.

I paid £130 for my 4GB pro duo not from ebay though.

www.gsmarena.com

Xpander said:
You must be on the ball! According to The Reg Sony are only just about ready to release 4 gig Memory Duos!

Sandisk ones are already avalible, at £130 though they cost more than double the price of 4gb sd/mmc/cf cards so there isnt much point buying one unless you are desperate for them. In fact you can get 8GB cf cards for £130, which is why before you buy a phone you should make sure it has the memory compatibilty you require, which is why I only buy ones that can accept cf and sd cards.

Kappa · 10 Jul 2006 at 21:13

Aruffell said:
You can fit 250 odd songs on a 512mb card.

It's a phone with ONE speaker, cut the quality down of your songs mate

Andy

Come on dude! you work in a phone shop, its a walkman phone, which comes with headphones!

JustinB · 10 Jul 2006 at 23:14

Energize said:
www.gsmarena.com

Sandisk ones are already avalible, at £130 though they cost more than double the price of 4gb sd/mmc/cf cards so there isnt much point buying one unless you are desperate for them. In fact you can get 8GB cf cards for £130, which is why before you buy a phone you should make sure it has the memory compatibilty you require, which is why I only buy ones that can accept cf and sd cards.

Yes it is a Sandisk one. I was waiting for them to be released since i first read about them in march (i think). Basically you are stuck with a certain manufacturer of phone then. As Nokias used to use MMC & RS-MMC probably still the same now.Im not sure havent followed them since my 6600 & 7610.Sony Ericsson use MSPD and now their new M2 cards.And the others supposrt whichever. I suppose that is the only downside if future SE phones use M2 and dont support MSPD, but then again something will.

If you were referring to the specs of the W810i on gsmarena:

Memory Phonebook 1000 x 24 fields, Photo call
Call records 30 received, dialed and missed calls
Card slot Memory Stick Duo Pro (up to 2GB)

If you look at the W900i it says the same.This is because there wasnt a 4GB card for the phones to support when they were released.

Haly · 11 Jul 2006 at 10:17

Kappa said:
Come on dude! you work in a phone shop, its a walkman phone, which comes with headphones!

Plus doesn't the w810i have three speakers, while the w800i has one?
Also you can get some pretty good SE speakers with them, had some special offers with them coming free with a phone at work lately.

james.miller · 11 Jul 2006 at 10:20

i thought it was two.....one for voice calling and one for music (on the back of the phone). i never did notice if my gf's w810i had stereo speakers lol

4GB memory card for w800i- waste of time or worth the money?

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