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5700XT Hitting 2.3GHz+ - TomsHW-DE

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Mauller, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Techen

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    For those that are asking.

    Yes I used the powerplay tables to bypass the 5700 lock.

    Yes am using the stock 5700 cooler with max temps around 70c around 3500-4000rpm

    There are many powerplay tables but I suggest the 50% power target one and not the 90% as you'll end up nuking the GPU.

    As for gains, I saw around a 20fps improvement in some games not all of course. But I feel am around 2070 overclocked/2070s levels with a 5700.

    Any other questions can give me a poke.
     
  2. Hades

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    Holy smoke!
     
  3. Mauller

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    Certainly looks good for the RDNA architecture in general and AIB cards based on NAvi 10.
     
  4. CREATIVE!11

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    We gonna need a proper reviewer to pick this up and do it.

    The results will be interesting to say the least....
     
  5. Zernath

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    And one presumably not on Nvidia's payroll! ;)
     
  6. CREATIVE!11

    Soldato

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    Yeah, I can't believe nobody has jumped on this yet since it was discovered these cards seem to be overclocking really well.
     
  7. Zernath

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    The reason being, Nvidia splashes the cash, with nice big fat brown envelopes going out to major YT channels and review sites. :p
     
  8. ANDREW GREEN

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    You sir are a gent and a scholar.

    Is that at games that hit 100 fps or lower beforehand?

    How loud is the 5700 blower fan when gaming?
     
  9. ANDREW GREEN

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    I think in some youtubers genuinely don't know how to get the best out of it. Steve from Hardwareunboxed tried overclocking Vega but couldn't get much out of it as he didn't undervolt it and maybe he didn't increase the power limit.

    On the other hand HardwareNexus got the Vega 56 hitting 2070 levels with power mods.
     
  10. Panos

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    No actually they had to sign a contract back in 2017, if they want from Nvidia to supply them with cards.

    Guru3d on his reviews, put 1250mv floor voltage on the Vega 64 and was claiming it was hot and loud, showing worse performance than stock!!!!!! He never revisited the card regardless everyone point at him the error of his method.
    Also the significant majority just use MSI AB, raising power limits and overclocks.

    Similarly on 5700XT. Only 1 came with undervolting showing 10% perf boost, 14C drop in temps without any other change. Even the german guy who watercooled the 5700XT hasn't touched wattman to undervolt.
     
  11. Techen

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  12. Panos

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    Impressive, considering the best I could do with TimeSpy and my watercooled V64 was 8342 graphic score!!!
     
  13. shankly1985

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    Very impressive
    This is my best with a unvolt Vega 64
    3d Mark score: 7454
    Graphics score: 7349
    Cpu score: 8111
    I7 8700k at 4.7 all cores
     
  14. Killer7xx

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    Doesn't the power tables disprove that the 5700 is locked? If it was locked in the unmodifiable bios, it wouldn't be able to push past 1850 anyway.
     
  15. Techen

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    It is locked for those that don't understand how power play works. You can't go past 1850mhz on msi or wattman without the reg edit
     
  16. nhornby51743

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    The 2080S will be around £650 for the lower end models, and the 2080 will have dropped in price, both better options than the 5700XT if you're after the horsepower.
     
  17. nhornby51743

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    The current 2080 will drop in price when the 2080S is released, which itself will come to market for £650.

    That will offer 2080ti like performance, which is well worth the extra over the 5700XT.

    The 2080 will be available around the £500 mark, so the price of a decent after market 5700XT would be creeping up towards that.....although it still wouldn't match the performance.
     
  18. Panos

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    2080S has already $700 listing on NV shop. Don't expect it anywhere near lower than £700 in UK, and 2080 is EOL.

    And do not speculate about 2080S performance. The gap between 2080 and 2080Ti is vast. A 10% increase doesn't get it nowhere near 2080Ti.
     
  19. RavenXXX2

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    not an apple fan loving the 5700 power mod.
     
  20. Killer7xx

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    I'm wondering whether they could just update afterburner to enable higher frequency overclocks, or if a driver update will enable higher freqs in the next few weeks or so. With Fiji and Vega, some cards couldn't OC much until driver and overclocking software updates were made. Technically if it was completely locked in the bios, it shouldn't be able to go over that frequency no matter what you change in the OS.

    I don't believe AMD would have much of a reason to just hold back the clocks. They didn't do so in the past when the lower SKUs were able to OC to the perf level of the higher SKUs. 290/390 was able to OC to 290X/390X perf levels, Fury was able to OC to Fury X perf levels and Vega 56 was able to get to Vega 64 levels with an OC, even with a locked BIOS. Holding back the clocks wouldn't make much sense since they would want to sell as many of these as possible to take away marketshare from Nvidia. Their Navi strategy is similar to their Ryzen strategy which included selling all CPUs unlocked.