Calm down, it's a graphics card for Christ's sake, not a liver transplant, a few days longer wait wont make any real difference now will it ? ...and I thought I could be impatient at times. There is no point at all in cancelling orders because you might have to wait 2 or 3 more days.
My thoughts exactly, not sure why people constantly talk about bad launches and paper launches. No idea why people just expect 3 million cards to be produced and manufactured almost instantly for everyone to get. They take time to make, you can't just build 100,000 a day to satisfy demand, a single $5,000 waifer of chips only provides 149 5870's if it was a 100% yield, considering they are closer to 40%, you're talking about getting 50 or so chips from each waifer. You sell them as they come out how on earth is that remotely surprising to anyone.
10,000 waifers, at a cost of $50million, only produces 500k cards and takes a long time to produce, can't find any numbers for production around so hard to know how many waifers they can process a day, but well, I'd be surprised if they could push though more than a couple thousand a month.
Yet again its TSMC screwing everyone, if yields were 60-80%, lets say 80%, we'd have cards that cost $80 less, and twice as many available already, easing supply even further, lowering gouging prices further
EDIT:_ THe other thing that strikes me as strange is the idea they are making smaller cores, but only 10% smaller on separate runs for 5850's. With such terrible yields, surely salvaging 5850's from failed 5870's is the way to go? Maybe yields are so bad that very few cores dead centre(where the silicon is normally best and most uniformly set out) are working and theres a cut off point where they simply don't work at all and can't be salvaged.
Again it yields were higher we'd probably also get more salvaged 5850 parts further reducing costs. It seems so laughable that TSMC have come out and proclaimed their 40nm process fixed and better.
