720p or 1080p on 40"

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What real diffrence is there on a 40" screen between 720p or 1080p. I've heards some people say an average joe would be hard pushed to tell the difference between the two on a 40" tv, is this true?


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kidkhaos said:
What real diffrence is there on a 40" screen between 720p or 1080p. I've heards some people say an average joe would be hard pushed to tell the difference between the two on a 40" tv, is this true?


,thxs

No. If you can tell the difference between 640*480 and 1280x1024 on a 15" TFT what makes you think you couldn't notice a doubling of resolotion on a massive 40" TFT :)
 
kidkhaos said:
What real diffrence is there on a 40" screen between 720p or 1080p. I've heards some people say an average joe would be hard pushed to tell the difference between the two on a 40" tv, is this true?


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There should be a few retailers near you that should have one of each screen on display..I say let your own eyes be the judge on this...

I myself have got a 720p plasma..
which am very happy with...I feel having a 720p screen is the best all rounder for what am going be watching over the next few years..As it givess an excellent picture with all feeds and not just HD stuff.
 
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on a 40" screen you will defo be able to tell the differance between 720p & 1080p

On a 32" its not supposed to be noticable.

if you have the choice between the 2 I would buy the 1080p, just more future proof, not long before blue ray and HD-DVD are here and you might as well cover your bases.
 
Well I think the pixels on a 1366x736 32" set are pretty big, so on a 40" a fair bit bigger, so for 40" I would get a 1080 set.
 
It's entirely dependent on the viewing distance.

If you're viewing from 8ft or more, 1080p is a waste. Around 5ft-8ft, 1080p will be awesome :D
 
Raider said:
It's entirely dependent on the viewing distance.

If you're viewing from 8ft or more, 1080p is a waste. Around 5ft-8ft, 1080p will be awesome :D

SD on a 40" 1080p screen at 5ft - 8ft would look like crap..Which will most likely be about 90% of what you be watching for a while..
 
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Not through a pc it wont, anyone would be mad NOT to buy a 1080P at the current speed of developement and price.

In 2 years hd-dvd and blue ray will be all over the place for peanuts.

720p on a 32 is ok but already history.
 
seriously i think all this view distance stuff is a load of crap, it assumes that the quality of the sd source is perfect, i can sky on a lcd has loads of mpeg assocatated blur and artifacts, even if u dont notice the inceased res then u may notice the decrese in stuff like that. and as for the not being able to see the diff between 480p and 720p at like 6 foot on a 23 inch ive been told elsewhere thats a load of crap because i got a high quality hd file and the dvd of the same thing and they were going in though to diff connections on the tv at the same tiem and i was flicking between, it was blatant
 
Eliot said:
seriously i think all this view distance stuff is a load of crap, it assumes that the quality of the sd source is perfect, i can sky on a lcd has loads of mpeg assocatated blur and artifacts, even if u dont notice the inceased res then u may notice the decrese in stuff like that. and as for the not being able to see the diff between 480p and 720p at like 6 foot on a 23 inch ive been told elsewhere thats a load of crap because i got a high quality hd file and the dvd of the same thing and they were going in though to diff connections on the tv at the same tiem and i was flicking between, it was blatant

If you're going to watching 99% SD then don't bother with a big HD screen..

But if you're getting Sky HD, Xbox 360, HD-DVD / Blu-Ray, then the bigger the better!
 
Slam62 said:
720p on a 32 is ok but already history.
So if this is true..Then which company make a 1080p 32" TV :confused:

I don't remember seening any 1080p 32" screens in the TV retailers i went to yesterday..And i didn't know that they were already out in 32"..

If this is true...Then i may replace my dell 24" pc monitor with one..
As i think the dell 30" has to high a res for me to keeping upgrading hardware to run games at..
 
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chaparral said:
So if this is true..Then which company make a 1080p 32" TV :confused:

I don't remember seening any 1080p 32" screens in the TV retailers i went to yesterday..And i didn't know that they were already out in 32"..

If this is true...Then i may replace my dell 24" pc monitor with one..
As i think the dell 30" has to high a res for me to keeping upgrading hardware to run games at..

Nobody makes a 32" 1080p LCD. There would be no point unless you were viewing at less than 3 feet. The only 1080p LCDs are computer monitors.

The smallest 1080p panel is 37", and even that is too small.

I think there's a lot of confusion about 720p/1080p panels. For an SD source, a 1080p panel will add nothing over a 720p panel. They both upscale to the native resolution but you're severely limited by the poor quality source.

I realise that at the moment there is an awkward situation in which we have HD sources but still SD television. You're never going to be able to balance both perfectly, unless you have a sofa that can move on rails maybe.

I say if you're looking to buy an LCD now, buy the best TV for whatever HD sources you want, at least 40", preferably 46" depending on your room size, and you'll just have to cope with SD sources the best you can until HD is more prominent.
 
Raider said:
I realise that at the moment there is an awkward situation in which we have HD sources but still SD television. You're never going to be able to balance both perfectly,t.
Yes is why i quoted higher up in this thread..That i found a 720p is the best all rounder for now...As a 720p will give a much better sd picture and a very good HD picture.
And it's going to be quiet a while before your going be watching over 50% of what you watch in HD..

I seen my boss sony 40w2000 1080p LCD and the sky+ SD picture is pretty crap.
Something i know that i would not be happy watching over the next few years till more HD channels comes out..

Maybe it's just me being fussy and wanting a better picture then what others can put up with....But for me i find SD looks bad enought how it is on a 40"+ display i don't see the point in making look twice as bad by displaying it on a 1080p display..
 
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chaparral said:
Yes is why i quoted higher up in this thread..That i found a 720p is the best all rounder for now...As a 720p will give a much better sd picture and a very good HD picture.
And it's going to be quiet a while before your going be watching over 50% of what you watch in HD..

I seen my boss sony 40w2000 1080p LCD and the sky+ SD picture is pretty crap.
Something i know that i would not be happy watching over the next few years till more HD channels comes out..

Maybe it's just me being fussy and wanting a better picture then what others can put up with....But for me i find SD looks bad enought how it is on a 40"+ display i don't see the point in making look twice as bad by displaying it on a 1080p display..

I really can't agree with this point. From everything i've seen, and from all the responses on the AvForums, the top quality 1080p Sony panels (W2000 and X2000) offer the same or better picture quality than any other top LCD panel.

It does depend on the settings that you have on the TV. The quality of the SD picture has nothing to do with whether it's a 1080p or 720p screen, it's the quality of the upscaler and the picture processing that makes the difference.

Generally, the more you pay, the better the SD picture handling. The fact that the expensive Sony's are 1080p has nothing to do with it really. They just process SD pictures better.
 
chaparral said:
I seen my boss sony 40w2000 1080p LCD and the sky+ SD picture is pretty crap.
Something i know that i would not be happy watching over the next few years till more HD channels comes out..

Maybe it's just me being fussy and wanting a better picture then what others can put up with....But for me i find SD looks bad enought how it is on a 40"+ display i don't see the point in making look twice as bad by displaying it on a 1080p display..

So normal sky channels and dvds would look 'crap' on a 46" 1080p LCD?
 
Raider said:
Nobody makes a 32" 1080p LCD. There would be no point unless you were viewing at less than 3 feet. The only 1080p LCDs are computer monitors.

The smallest 1080p panel is 37", and even that is too small.

I think there's a lot of confusion about 720p/1080p panels. For an SD source, a 1080p panel will add nothing over a 720p panel. They both upscale to the native resolution but you're severely limited by the poor quality source.

I realise that at the moment there is an awkward situation in which we have HD sources but still SD television. You're never going to be able to balance both perfectly, unless you have a sofa that can move on rails maybe.

I say if you're looking to buy an LCD now, buy the best TV for whatever HD sources you want, at least 40", preferably 46" depending on your room size, and you'll just have to cope with SD sources the best you can until HD is more prominent.
samsung f71 is 1080p 32inch no?
 
e36Adz said:
So normal sky channels and dvds would look 'crap' on a 46" 1080p LCD?
I have only seen SD on a 46" 1080p LCD in a retail shop..So i am not going to give a comment on picture quailty on a shop display..
 
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Raider said:
I really can't agree with this point. From everything i've seen, and from all the responses on the AvForums, the top quality 1080p Sony panels (W2000 and X2000) offer the same or better picture quality than any other top LCD panel.
Sorry..I was comparing the sony 1080p LCD with my own pioneer 720p plasma..Which i still feel that my 720p plasma gave me a much better SD picture...
 
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