£8-900 to spend...help me choose ;)

[HornyRhino]

hi everyone.......

within the next 2 weeks i will buying new monitor/s

i need assistance in making a choice.

my dilema has come down to this.....

i was looking to get a hazro 24" last month but left it as of the problems it had which some say are mostly ironed out but im unconvinced and so turned my attention to the hp lp2474 24" another good monitor thats also got it problems.

so now i decided id go bigger (or as american say 'Go Large') so i looked in the forums again and found not many people have complained about the 26" hazra but its still on pre-order on overclockers so can anyone give advice on which to get from the following selection :

note: i have £800-900 to spend
wont need for photography purposes as i only game (not professional),
watch films (dvd / xvid only not blueray and i wont be purchasing on any time soon)
and the usual daily tasks like internet and Ms word and such.

but i am looking for my moneys worth for good fast screens....



senario 1 : revert back to TN panels 2 x fast 24" like the G24 from acer ... (waiting for the philjohn's comment )

senario 2 : 2 x BenQ FP241VW 24" Widescreen Ultimate Gaming Monitor

senario 3 : 1 x Hazro 26" Silver Aluminiumon pre-order ..... 1 x 'Eye One Display 2 LT'
and spend rest on sun, sex and booze

senario 4 : 1 x NEC MultiSync® LCD2690WUXi 26" A-TW polorizer ..... 1 x 'Eye One Display 2 LT'
any thoughts on the nec LCD2690WUXi 26" ???????

senario 5 : 2 x Dell Ultrasharp 2709W 27" .... and skip the 'Eye One Display 2 LT'
Are these any good as they are nearly £50 cheaper than the hazro 26" ?????

senario 6 : 1 x Hazro HZ30W 30" - Silver Aluminium .. and skip the 'Eye One Display 2 LT'

senario 7 : 2 x HP LP2475w 24" .. and skip the 'Eye One Display 2 LT'


so which solution would be the best as i dont mind dual disply option but also need the best for gaming and ive already looked in to the lg 26" 2600hp and that has problems as well so not adding that to the list.

have 8800gt in sli o/c and 4gb ddr2 1066...cpu=E8400 o/c and wont ever be playing crysis mostly call of duty 4 and Rpg type of person.

so What Would You Buy.........................

all thoughts most appreciated.

 

[Pilky01]

£900 on monitors

 

[cataferal]

Well, I've gone with the LP2475w, and even that was pushing my budget (I'd started out hoping to only spend £250 max, and ended up at £400+). I may even need to buy a colorimeter for this thing - but we'll see when it arrives.

If you do have £800 to spare, dont compromise. Pick up the NEC (if you can find it for sale here), or better yet, an Eizo model. They're in a completely different league, and will last you for years. Go all the way.

 

[Blackbadger]

If I had that to spend I'd get a nice Samsung LED DLP.

You can get a truly massive screen, insane 16 microsecond response times ( LCD have millisecond).. Full HD, vga, 3 hdmi inputs, stereoscopic support for 3D.

Worth taking a look at. if you wanting to play games/movies.

They are harder to get hold of in the uk a few places supply them, a friend has one, its incredible.

 

[Flying Gribble]

Well I'm very happy with my NEC 24WMGX3 - you could get that plus the coloreyes.

 

[HornyRhino]

thanks for the replies.

i sold some stuff and this was put forward to replace my 2 old hyundia 19" L90+ was thinking of 1 big screen but then looked and found i could afford 2 of some brands.

does anyone rate the 27" dells?

oh and i looked at the nec gx3 on bit-tech and they gave the performance a good rating but overall they said it was average and gave it 8/10
have you a link for the Eizo is it pva or ips and if its 24" i may feel a bit wary of spending all that for only a 24".

please be aware i have never seen a PVA or IPS only TN's so all i can go by is what i have read over the las 3 months on this and hardforms.

basically im relying on the masses here.....experienced masses i hope

and the Samsung LED DLP... have you got a link as i cant imagine it coming under £900 it too new???

 

[Adrianr]

Going purely on Badass's reviews, the 30" Hazro just looks like an obscenely good screen.

www.tftcentral.co.uk

And look how well it calibrates!!

 

[HornyRhino]

also i was wondering if anyone has got any sort of diagram drawing or web links of the different panel heights overlapped to get an idea in monitos sizes?

heres a rough idea of what i mean tho its not accurate





is the Lacie 324 24" Widescreen any good? the model without calibrator and hood...

 

[magpie1966]

I've got the Dell 27" its a class piece of kit, easy to setup, and clean, true colour.

Just make sure you got a GPU to Match.


P.s. I play cod4 on mine at 1920x1200 its world class. Just remember about the Graphics card. I also play oblivion, and had to turn the res down to a motley 1600x1200, was abit unsmooth, however thats nothing to do with the monitor. Just need more Graphics card at high res. you will not be dissappointed with the Dell, I can assure that.

Loads of extra's on the side as well usb hub etc, Very sturdy stand. I don't know if you can do a search of the Database here i did a review with pics back in March'ish when I got mine.

Best Kit i've bought.

 

[williamd]

If I had that to spend I'd get a nice Samsung LED DLP.

You can get a truly massive screen, insane 16 microsecond response times ( LCD have millisecond).. Full HD, vga, 3 hdmi inputs, stereoscopic support for 3D.

Worth taking a look at. if you wanting to play games/movies.

They are harder to get hold of in the uk a few places supply them, a friend has one, its incredible.

Moar.

 

[EsaT]

ive already looked in to the lg 26" 2600hp and that has problems as well

Like all LCDs.
It's imperfect mother of all compromises technology, often made worser by "profitable compromises" of manufacturer.

Smaller than 30" Hazros have fixed "eyeballs are smoking in their sockets" back light destroying black and also contrast because of need for strong panel blocking.
Eizos are S-PVAs so there's VA's horizontal gamma shift of darkest colours, just like lagging Dell 27". (and TNs are couple billion light years behind)
That NEC would have surely best image quality because of higher bit depth internal processing and A-TW polarizer. But input lag isn't greatest for fast spaced games.

Sure LG isn't perfect but for limited budget good image quality general use/gaming monitor it feels excellent.
SPVA-equipped Lenovo L220x I had five months between CRT and this has better black but otherwise this H-IPS wins in about every way, also while input lags under certain limit are harder to detect directly this feels at least slighly more responsive and also feels to have less blurring (=faster response time) in games.


Neither DLPs are entirely problem free
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP#The_DLP_.22rainbow_effect.22_in_single-chip_systems
Also in general they have crappy stone age resolutions and even costs more than high end PC -models are vertically limited to low screen.
("full HD" is marketing name of low screen)

 

[Blackbadger]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP#The...e-chip_systems
Also in general they have crappy stone age resolutions and even costs more than high end PC -models are vertically limited to low screen.
("full HD" is marketing name of low screen)

I agree old dlp style sets are a bad idea, they can suffer from rainbow effects, screen burn from using a back mounted projector which needs it's bulb replacing every year or so. LED dlps do not have this, it's new technology.

Full HD is not a marketing term of a low screen... HD ready is. Full HD refers to a screen being fully 1920×1080p, where as HD ready which many sets offer only can do1920×1080i (interlaced) 1920x540 effectively.

For example the Samsung-HL61A750-61-Inch-1080p-Powered if googled
roughly translates to £900 Probably the 50" or 56" would work out more realistically.

LED DLP's do have some limitations. They don't work well with sunlight on them (screen gets washed out). Viewing angles are not as good as lcd's. Standard definition dvd's divx etc may look a bit rubbish on such a massive screen, some upscaling will help. you probably will need to calibrate a set if you wish colours to be perfect.

have a google, about them. They gate ace reviews.

In my opinion a lcd screen, is great for desktop use. If you want bigger and better, other technologies that the rest of the world are using offer greater experiences.
It's worth spending a while looking into anyway. £900 is a lot of cash. - maybe some demo units are around at specialist av stores so you can see first hand.

 

[HornyRhino]

Sure LG isn't perfect but for limited budget good image quality general use/gaming monitor it feels excellent.

do you have a rough pice and which model cuz i found several on google for that lg and they were over £600...but yes it look like your right based on prad to being a jack of all trades....

in the meantime i found someone but they have several models and im waiting for them to get back to me on specs as they were identical... and found on google there was problems finding the ips panels as they were selling tn panels to usa and getting stock mixed up..

LG - W2600H-PF 26" £405.44
Item model number: W2600H

* General Information:
Colour - 16.7 million colours / Size Horizontal/Vertical - 60.19 x 46.32 cm / Point Size - 0.2865 mm / Resolution - 1920 x 1200 / Brightness - 300 cd/m² / Contrast - 5,000:1 / Viewing Angle Horizontal/Vertical - 178°/178° / Waiting Time - 5 ms / Video Inlets/Type - D-sub 15 pins, DVI-D digital input (HDCP compatible) / Frequency Page - Horizontal: 30 to 83 kHz Vertical: 56 to 75 Hz / USB Hub - No / Audio Loudspeakers - No / Max. Consumption - 50 W
* Size - 60.19 x 27.02 x 46.32 cm
* Weight - 9.7 kg

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Flatron W2600HP 26" £386.99
Item model number: W2600HP

* The W2600HP-BF from LG was designed for professionals who work with graphics
* Its 26-inch LCD screen guarantees users visual comfort for all their tasks, as well as a 1920x1200-pixel resolution, which displays images in HD format
* The resolution of the display can be changed in one click and adapted to suit you
* The W2600HP-BF has a 178° angle of vision, both vertically and horizontally, and thanks to its contrast rate of 5000:1 and brightness of 400 cd/m², the display is incredible sharp
* It has several connections, including a USB 2
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and i found a few more selling for £350 so how do i tell if they are tn or ips if the specs they display are all the same?? never knew spending money could be this hard...

might email hazra and beg really hard for an answer ..if the 26" panel problems have all gone...wish it was problem free oh and then beg gibbo to order more

 

[HornyRhino]

scrub my last post as i have found that the w2400h is TN and the w2400hp is ips.. why dont they label things properly.


any way i just discovered another new lg screen .... 30" LG W3000HP
and the price im not saying where (might get kicked) was a lot cheaper than the hazro 30" any reviews or comments on quality???

apparently fast no lag and ghosting and better than the samsung 30"s but thats going by comments of other users.....

gibbo are you going to sell these???

 

[EsaT]

scrub my last post as i have found that the w2400h is TN and the w2400hp is ips.. why dont they label things properly.

Well, what do you think?
It's easy to mess W2600H-PF to W2600HP-BF and manufacturing costs of TN are probably much lower meaning higher profit margin.

Price was about 600€ but shop wasn't the cheapest because they offer full pixel warranty. (but neither the most expensive)
Lowest prices in Germany are around 500€ so those should give good comparison point.
TN paneled W2600H-PF is really surprising close in price... probably because of the above reason.
(TN version seems to have 300cd/m2 max brightness vs. 400cd/m2 of IPS)


Considering that 30" LG I don't know does it have A-TW polarizer like expensive NECs. 26" feels to be nearing size limit where "white glow" of IPS would become easily visible.
And basing to some talk in HardForum 30" panels apparently have more quality variation and panel uniformity problems are more common. (logical considering bigger size/number of pixels = harder to manufacture)

No matter how you look it... development of OLED and SED should be hurried for getting real mature flat displays.

Full HD is not a marketing term of a low screen... HD ready is.

Wrong, full HD is low screen, I've used 1200 vertical resolution from 2001 so this current trend of overhyping 1080 as some miracle maker is just plain stupid... (then again I shouldn't expect anything too intelligent from this specie)
And HD ready means just plain ****.

 

[Brother Belcher]

Hi,

Last week I became the proud owner of a LG W3000H. I like it !

Posted a few times here researching the Dell 3008 and Samsung 305T but eventually chose the LG.

Im not particularly tech minded so I can't give a very detailed analysis, however...

Needed no calibration out of the box (at least to my tastes) other than a slight reduction in brightness.
Input lag has been quoted as 15ms which is lower than the other two.
Response time is good with no ghosting or lag.
It was a bit cheaper than either of the other two (at least her in UK).
Build quality seems fine to me.
No dead pixels.

It looks nice on my desk and has plenty of WOW factor although I moved up from a 24 " so the shock wasn't too big. You very quickly adjust to the new size and after 1 week it seems normal !

The only downside is my ancient 7950GT is now showing its age.

Cheers BB

 

[Benimaru]

The NEC 24WMGX3 looks sweet and no doubt it will perform well but its a bit out of my price range atm, maybe get it when the price goes down.

 

[HornyRhino]

well my list has been trimmed down now to a nice 3 monitor battle thanks to Esat...

not forgetting my needs..

*no consoles
*no photo work
*no blue-ray or dvd connection will use computers internal dvd player
*just good day to day stuff with addition of gaming

want it to last me for some time....not into upgrading monitors frequently



NEC LCD2690WUXi 26" A-TW polorizer ................lag 22 - 32.5 - 49 (about 1-2 frames)
prad.de...... has average/very good for games also has amazing screen quality (Overall rating: VERY GOOD)
trusted reviews...9/10



2 x LG W2600HP 26" ............Must be a Rev.2 panel ...........lag is ..15 (about 1 frame.)
prad.de ....games speed in the middle of 27" Dell and Nec 26" but screen colour quality is not as good as nec 26" (Overall rating: GOOD)



30" LG LCD W3000HP.................................looking for reviews (where is baddass when you need him)



30" Hazro HZ30W...............low lag and good picture quality but price is the highest out of my list.

all have fallen under my target so it just choosing the right one.

im pulling towards either
2x LG W2600HP 26" or 1x 30" LG LCD W3000HP

 

[HornyRhino]

The NEC 24WMGX3 looks sweet and no doubt it will perform well but its a bit out of my price range atm, maybe get it when the price goes down.

i myself find paying over £600 for a 24" silly when you can get 26" for roughly a little more....a least thats my thought.

bit like the TN panels selling for £400 whats the point as you could go va or ips with a liitle more cash.

 

[HornyRhino]

Considering that 30" LG I don't know does it have A-TW polarizer like expensive NECs.

im still looking into that