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8700K VS Older Gen i7's (Ivy-Haswell-KabyLake vs Coffeelake)
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So end result. If you do not have 1080Ti and just a 1080p monitor, having any overclocked 4c/8t (or better) intel since 2600K era, or Ryzen system, you don't have to upgrade for gaming.
Lesser GPU or higher resolution makes the whole upgrade pointless.
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Nearly every post of yours since launch has said the same thing, I think you've convinced yourself your not going to upgrade to the 8700k from your Ryzen, you may stop now.
You pick out the review videos that support any reason not to upgrade. There's more videos supporting reasons to upgrade than not. Not many people, in this forum at least are running a 2600k with a 1070, it's an odd combination. You have been busy trying to put people off over the past 2 weeks I'll give you that.
There's plenty of reasons to have the best gaming CPU on the market. Unless you run 4k, I'll say do your own homework to fit in with the resolution and GPU you have, and not take notice of the people in this forum who have sour cpu upgrading grapes for whatever reason.
I just upgrade to Ryzen. Had a 6800K until 19:30 last night mate. Does that means the Intel 6xxx HEDT platform, and Intel 7xxx HEDT are ain't worth also?
Also have you actually seen all the reviews? Or only picking the ones you like with pre-overclocked 8700K @ 4.7Ghz showing as "stock", from the 3 specific reviewers?
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Sorry I read it several times I don't get what you mean.
No I clocked the M/B's running the 8700k's @ 4.7 early on, better than the ones you enjoy though comparing overclocked cpu's with stock 8700k's like above.
@Born_2_Kill_83 is right. It hasn't gone unnoticed that @Panos has trolled what is the best gaming cpu right now since launch in some lame attempt to justify his Ryzen purchase.
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That's why you ask for the person's budget.The funny thing with any upgrade advice is that it's utterly pointless anyway given 99% of the time the person giving the advice has no idea of the financial situation of the person asking
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As an anecdotal example, I have an i5 3570k/GTX 1070 and BF1 is completely unplayable for me - massive stutter, lag and regular bursts under 60fps. Yet when I look at videos of even an i5-8400/1070, the FPS is a rock-solid 100+. It's when you get near to minimum standards of enjoyability, that the generational performance improvements become most profound.
4 core CPU are the becoming less than sufficient for MP games.
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Check the 1440p benchmarks it still makes a nice difference. Only at 4k there's a 1/2fps increase.
It quickly goes round forums like this that a new cpu isn't a worthless an upgrade, maybe due to lack of stock and they can't buy it anyway, maybe cause an individual can't afford it, or they're sheep and just copy their favourite comments and spread them around.
It quickly goes round forums like this that a new cpu isn't a worthless an upgrade, maybe due to lack of stock and they can't buy it anyway, maybe cause an individual can't afford it, or they're sheep and just copy their favourite comments and spread them around.
Aye there are plenty of reviews out there showing that regardless of resolution or GPU, a CPU can make a difference. Hardware Unboxed showed that even with a 1080 or 1070 you can get a nice FPS increase between CPU's. I think Panos in particular just doesn't seem to want people to upgrade to the 8700k or Intel in general or whatever. He is in every thread proclaiming the same misinformation.
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Don't forget the chipsets, probably the biggest reason to upgrade IMHO
Yep, even on a mid range GPU the difference can be seen. Even at 1440p the cracks are starting to show, wait till volta/navi and that crack will become a canyon.
There are two sides to the argument, one of which is present for some people but not others, the FPS per £ spent, or just out and out value for money.
Logic would state that if you are running, lets say a 3570K, with 16GB RAM, and a GTX 970 and you want to upgrade for better FPS, changing the CPU/Motherboard/RAM is not going to offer much in terms or bang for your buck, and not really improve the FPS output from your system. The sensible option would be a newer, faster Graphics card e.g. GTX 1070, and possibly swapping out to a 3770/3770K, netting you a much greater level of FPS for similar monies spent to the CPU/Motherboard/RAM.
If you don't care about how much you spend, and have an unrestricted budget, then yes upgrading it all is going to give you some improvements over the aforementioned option, but the level of diminishing returns for the money spent will be incredibly noticeable. These videos help highly just how good old hardware still is, and how a lot of it can keep up with modern GPU's for the most part at 1440p/4k, but there will always be exceptions, and those will get bigger over time, but the value argument about how much you are paying to have 5/10/15/20/25/30 extra FPS is what really matters to the majority.
Until the likes of the equivalent of the GTX 1060, can bottleneck an older i7, and peg the frame rates to below 60, or with severe stuttering then then, don't spend the money on the CPU etc, spend it on games, spend it on a larger SSD, spend it on taking your wife out, or just put it away for a rainy day when you need a new CPU.
