8800GTX Not Impressed With My New Card

[AWPC]

Please can someone help me out here.

Got an EVGA 8800GTX from OCUK yesterday. Only been playing around for a few hours but so far not impressed as:

1: Using a DVI to HDMI cable to my HDTV the picture is not razor sharp and looks murky. DVI to VGA is razor sharp. This exact same HDMI cable + HDTV on my old X1950Pro is razor sharp via HDMI so looks as though the EVGA does not contain the hardware to display a good picture over HDMI. No adjustment on the HDTV makes any difference.

2: The general image quality so far does not look anywhere near as good as the X1950Pro. Colours look washed out/dull/lifeless by comparison.

3: Performance is not what I would have expected either. Only getting another 2200 3Dmark06 points (6900 vs 4500). 03 is double the score around the 28000 mark and 05 is only another 1300 or so more.

I must be doing something wrong here so please can someone point me in the right direction as I only use it to game on the HDTV @ 1360x768 and expected it to run DX9 games very well but even Tomb Raider Anniversary stutters in places @ 1360x768 with full AA + AF which I am very surprised about. FEAR is now ultra smooth,Stalker lags badly. What am I doing wrong?? The CPU is an Intel 670J @ stock 3.8Ghz with 2GB Ram on an Asus 955X mobo I ran drive cleaner to remove all the ATI drivers etc etc.

 

[Teaf]

If you are getting 6900 marks in 3dm06 with a 8800 GTX then your processor is most likely throttling the card badly, you should be expecting more like 11k+. So really it isn't the card, it's the other parts of the system not able to keep up with the card. The image quality is a bit weird though, I'd say poor quality cables might be to blame, but if you've been using them okay on other cards and have better clarity, then unfortunately I'm not sure about that

 

[jaykay]

It may be his proccesor.

 

[eracer2006]

Please can someone help me out here.

Got an EVGA 8800GTX from OCUK yesterday. Only been playing around for a few hours but so far not impressed as:

1: Using a DVI to HDMI cable to my HDTV the picture is not razor sharp and looks murky. DVI to VGA is razor sharp. This exact same HDMI cable + HDTV on my old X1950Pro is razor sharp via HDMI so looks as though the EVGA does not contain the hardware to display a good picture over HDMI. No adjustment on the HDTV makes any difference.

2: The general image quality so far does not look anywhere near as good as the X1950Pro. Colours look washed out/dull/lifeless by comparison.

3: Performance is not what I would have expected either. Only getting another 2200 3Dmark06 points (6900 vs 4500). 03 is double the score around the 28000 mark and 05 is only another 1300 or so more.

I must be doing something wrong here so please can someone point me in the right direction as I only use it to game on the HDTV @ 1360x768 and expected it to run DX9 games very well but even Tomb Raider Anniversary stutters in places @ 1360x768 with full AA + AF which I am very surprised about. FEAR is now ultra smooth,Stalker lags badly. What am I doing wrong?? The CPU is an Intel 670J @ stock 3.8Ghz with 2GB Ram on an Asus 955X mobo I ran drive cleaner to remove all the ATI drivers etc etc.

I only get 12000 3dmarks in 3dmark 03 yet i can run all the latest games perfectly maxed out.

 

[Tute]

I only get 12000 3dmarks in 3dmark 03 yet i can run all the latest games perfectly maxed out.

Are you sure you don't mean 3dmark06? 13k is a VERY poor score for an 8800GTX in '03.

Please can someone help me out here.

Got an EVGA 8800GTX from OCUK yesterday. Only been playing around for a few hours but so far not impressed as:

1: Using a DVI to HDMI cable to my HDTV the picture is not razor sharp and looks murky. DVI to VGA is razor sharp. This exact same HDMI cable + HDTV on my old X1950Pro is razor sharp via HDMI so looks as though the EVGA does not contain the hardware to display a good picture over HDMI. No adjustment on the HDTV makes any difference.

2: The general image quality so far does not look anywhere near as good as the X1950Pro. Colours look washed out/dull/lifeless by comparison.

3: Performance is not what I would have expected either. Only getting another 2200 3Dmark06 points (6900 vs 4500). 03 is double the score around the 28000 mark and 05 is only another 1300 or so more.

I must be doing something wrong here so please can someone point me in the right direction as I only use it to game on the HDTV @ 1360x768 and expected it to run DX9 games very well but even Tomb Raider Anniversary stutters in places @ 1360x768 with full AA + AF which I am very surprised about. FEAR is now ultra smooth,Stalker lags badly. What am I doing wrong?? The CPU is an Intel 670J @ stock 3.8Ghz with 2GB Ram on an Asus 955X mobo I ran drive cleaner to remove all the ATI drivers etc etc.

Have you tried using drivercleaner and cleaning the drivers off and reinstalling them?

Checked the CPU isn't getting too hot and throttling down?

Also, what are the rest of your specs? I'd take what's in your sig but it says X6800 in there where you say you have a 670J...

 

[Dingleberry88]

2: The general image quality so far does not look anywhere near as good as the X1950Pro. Colours look washed out/dull/lifeless by comparison.

Nvidia Control Panel > Display > Adjust desktop colour settings

Add a bit of Digital Vibrance (I find 25% is good).

 

[The Running Man]

no chance of that being CPU limitation.

your card is either DUFF, or like FSAA/AA are both turned on and are bringing your 3dmark scores down.

 

[jaykay]

But he has a Intel 670J that surely is bottlnecking it and giving bad min fps. Which is creating the lag.

 

[The Running Man]

no it shouldnt do any of that. 3.8Ghz is plenty. Bottlenecking can happen but will not knock 40% off his 3dmark score potential because they are synthetic GPU benchmarks not CPU benchmarks. his scores wont be as high as a C2D rig, but should be within 10-15%.

 

[Tute]

no it shouldnt do any of that. 3.8Ghz is plenty. Bottlenecking can happen but will not knock 40% off his 3dmark score potential because they are synthetic GPU benchmarks not CPU benchmarks. his scores wont be as high as a C2D rig, but should be within 10-15%.

Depends, if the CPU was getting too hot and throttling, what would the mobo clock it down to?

I think it would go for something like 40% off his clock speed, which would explain the performance loss.

After all, it's not like the prescotts run cool is it!

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Theres definately something wrong there, as said above you should be hitting 11k+ in 06, my rig in sig gets over 9k in 06, and its all stock.

 

[AWPC]

Thanks for the advice guys.

I have several PC's. The X6800 one is not my main gaming PC I use that more for the web and other work related stuff.

The main gaming one is an Intel 670J @ 3.8Ghz. Built it out of spare parts. I know it is 2 years old now but as it could keep up with the X1950Pro albeit with little AA on recent titles thought it would not bottleneck the 8800GTX.

Looks like I may be wrong and will have to get another C2D.

Still cannot understand the HDMI thing though and that is annoying how a £140 card has perfect DVI-HDMI yet a £400 one does not!!!

 

[AWPC]

Depends, if the CPU was getting too hot and throttling, what would the mobo clock it down to?

I think it would go for something like 40% off his clock speed, which would explain the performance loss.

After all, it's not like the prescotts run cool is it!

Not an issue as I have a Zalman 9500 + AS5 and it is never hot enough to throttle.

 

[AWPC]

Theres definately something wrong there, as said above you should be hitting 11k+ in 06, my rig in sig gets over 9k in 06, and its all stock.

How can I find out what is wrong

 

[Jono8]

Could be cpu. with an x2 was getting 8200 in 06. Now with a new core 2 duo at 3ghz its up to 11350. Seems like these cards do need a very good cpu to get the best out of them

 

[Xez]

I'd say your CPU has something to do with this but it could be drivers, as suggested try using driver cleaner. ATi drivers are a bugger to get rid of in my experience. Failing that maybe try it with your X6800? last but not least a format?

 

[Dutch Guy]

Regarding the HDMI, you need to make sure the resolution is the excact resolution of the LCD TV so either 720p or 1080p, you also have to set the TV to 'Full Pixel' or '1:1 pixel mapping' or it might be called differently.

You do not want the LCD TV to do any scaling at all and you want a 1:1 display for maximum sharpness.

 

[AWPC]

I'd say your CPU has something to do with this but it could be drivers, as suggested try using driver cleaner. ATi drivers are a bugger to get rid of in my experience. Failing that maybe try it with your X6800? last but not least a format?

Yeah ran driver cleaner and did an uninstall before swapping cards then rebooted with the 8800GTX in safe mode just to make sure.

Going to be a pain if I have to swap it into my X6800 rig to verify as the case is exotic and time consuming to open as also have a lot of cable management!!

 

[AWPC]

Regarding the HDMI, you need to make sure the resolution is the excact resolution of the LCD TV so either 720p or 1080p, you also have to set the TV to 'Full Pixel' or '1:1 pixel mapping' or it might be called differently.

You do not want the LCD TV to do any scaling at all and you want a 1:1 display for maximum sharpness.

Yeah did all this as the TV does allow 1:1 on the HDMI and the X1950Pro with the exact same cable a few mins before and no setup changes to the TV was a perfect 1:1 image then the 8800GTX cannot match it no matter what changes I make to the TV setup. Suspect the DVI-HDMI conversion on the 8800GTX is an afterthought.........

Tried 4:3,16:9,Native,Just Scan,Wide on the HDMI 1:1 with or without and the image was the same or even worse then when XP loaded it just did not look right played around with refresh rates etc etc sharpness and makes no difference whatsoever just does not look good compared to the £300 cheaper X1950pro!!!!!!!

 

[chaparral]

no it shouldnt do any of that. 3.8Ghz is plenty. Bottlenecking can happen but will not knock 40% off his 3dmark score potential because they are synthetic GPU benchmarks not CPU benchmarks. his scores wont be as high as a C2D rig, but should be within 10-15%.

My 8800gtx score in 3dmark06 with my two cpu's

AMD 4400 x2 CPU = 8500
C2D 6600 cpu (at 3700ghz) = 13000

About 50% extra