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8800GTX Not Impressed With My New Card

The scaling is broken in the 8800 drivers, unless you use a hdtv compensation fix thing. Therefore, you should make sure that you have the use display scaling option ticked instead of use Nvidia scaling.

Don't like at the overall 3dmark as that has a CPU component, instead note down the SM2 and SM3 scores. They should be around 3000 for a GTX, IIRC
 
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chaparral said:
My 8800gtx score in 3dmark06 with my two cpu's

AMD 4400 x2 CPU = 8500
C2D 6600 cpu (at 3700ghz) = 13000

About 50% extra
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Thanks mate, Sounds as though I need a faster CPU then. The 670J keeps up fine with an X1950Pro but obviously the 8800GTX needs more grunt if you are getting almost double by score as despite what some people say 3d Mark can be a good benchmark in scenarios like mine where you do not know the bottleneck.

Will probably try it with my X6800 as that is unlikely to cause a bottleneck.
 
At lower Res, the Cpu will tend to bottleneck the gtx. I think the yardstick is above 1600x1200 with loads of AA/AF to let the card fly.
Also some games are more Cpu intensive than others. For example LOMAC saw a bigger performance gain when i whent from a [email protected] to a [email protected] than when i went from 7800gtx to 8800gtx.
 
Rroff said:
3D Marks 06 shows a break down in scores CPU and 2x SM3 entries - what is the CPU score part?
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Excactly, tell us the individual scores that make up the final score, that will give a much better indication.
 
MystaEB said:
The question here is, why would you buy an 8800 GTX and then not put it in your system along with the X6800? :P
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Because I use the X6800 for work and the monitor is 1920x1200 native but only 24". I now game on a 40" HDTV and that PC is an older system put together from my old spare components but the screen size means it is better to game on than the 24. If I need to use the X6800 system to game on then I would have to spend ages transferring data across etc etc so a lot of hassle for me to do as I have several HD's and a complex multiple OS boot!!2
 
Dutch Guy said:
Excactly, tell us the individual scores that make up the final score, that will give a much better indication.
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From memory the CPU score is only 1151 or something.
 
The bad performance in 3D Mark06 is caused by your CPU, it's highly lagging behind in the CPU Tests ( by quite a lot :D ) and also bringing your Game & HDR scores down ( while they're not a clear CPU bound tests, they still get some FPS up and down depending on the CPU's performance )

For comparison, here's a run with one of my test systems, with a X6800 @ 3.3GHz & one 8800GTX @ stock clocks, versus a P4 670J @ 3.8GHz + single 8800GTX @ stock ( might've been slightly overclocked, I've lost the project and can't find it again..anyways normal air overclocks don't give that much in 3Dm06 )

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On the CPU 'limitation' / bottlenecking in real-life apps, read this
 
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Just ran 06 and these are the results:

3DMark Score 6507 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 2971
HDR/SM3.0 Score 3729
CPU Score 1150
Game Score N/A N/A
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.408 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
GT2 - Firefly Forest 24.107 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.364 FPS CPU Tests
CPU2 - Red Valley 0.581 FPS CPU Tests
HDR1 - Canyon Flight 41.750 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
HDR2 - Deep Freeze 32.822 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests

Does that point to a CPU bottleneck??
 
AWPC said:
Just ran 06 and these are the results:

3DMark Score 6507 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 2971
HDR/SM3.0 Score 3729
CPU Score 1150
Game Score N/A N/A
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 25.408 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
GT2 - Firefly Forest 24.107 FPS SM2.0 Graphics Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.364 FPS CPU Tests
CPU2 - Red Valley 0.581 FPS CPU Tests
HDR1 - Canyon Flight 41.750 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests
HDR2 - Deep Freeze 32.822 FPS HDR/SM3.0 Graphics Tests

Does that point to a CPU bottleneck??
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Yes it is.
But the situation in real-life gaming, isn't like that.
So please, take a good look here
 
BenchZowner said:
Yes it is.
But the situation in real-life gaming, isn't like that.
So please, take a good look here
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Yeah thanks for the link mate had a look and am I right in thinking that I am CPU bottlenecked but whether or not I notice it in games @ 1360x768 depends on how CPU heavy the actual game is so it may vary from title to title?

If I want the best out of my 8800GTX then I need a faster C2D CPU than my aging P4 670J?
 
Dingleberry88 said:
At that res a 320mb GTS would be fine.
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I'd stay away from the 320Mb version unless your really on a budget - as the 640Mb isn't hugely more money and is a lot more future proof even if you only play at medium resolutions.
 
Dingleberry88 said:
At that res a 320mb GTS would be fine.
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With my CPU you mean as the 8800GTX is struggling in places with Tomb Raider Anniversry on full AA + AF it stutters on the first Peru level in game cinematic!
 
AWPC said:
With my CPU you mean as the 8800GTX is struggling in places with Tomb Raider Anniversry on full AA + AF it stutters on the first Peru level in game cinematic!
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No, like has been said you probably need a faster CPU, but unless you're running at 1600x1200 + I would've thought a GTX is overkill.



Edit: I agree, it is worth spending the extra to get the 640mb GTS though.
 
Dingleberry88 said:
No, like has been said you probably need a faster CPU, but unless you're running at 1600x1200 + I would've thought a GTX is overkill.



Edit: I agree, it is worth spending the extra to get the 640mb GTS though.
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Yeah but have already bought the 8800GTX so stuck with it now!!

Will just get a cheap C2D CPU + Mobo as that must be better than my oldish 670J.
 
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