Aargh, standing up for mates.

Messiah Khan

Messiah Khan

Messiah Khan

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Ive just got back from the pub(Pub quiz, im not normally there on mondays, honest) And two of my mates got started on. However, IMO they half started it. Fair enough, the group that they got started by were far from friendly, but my mates really didn't help the situation, ie. kept staring, talking back to them etc. Me however, being a pacifist and not as drunk as my mates, kept telling them to leave it, and that if something kicked off, I was not wiling to get involved. In the end we got a taxi, and left the trouble behind us. However one of my friends is really annoyed about the fact that I wasnt willing to get involved with standing up for them, despite the fact that IMO they were half the trouble. So the question is; Was I right to stand my moral highground, and how far would you go to defend your mates, even if you think they were in the wrong?
 
I will defend my friends, unless they started the whole thing.

It depends how drunk I am. When I'm really slaughtered I'll fight anything, even myself.
 
messiah khan said:
... and not as drunk as my mates... However one of my friends is really annoyed about the fact that I wasnt willing to get involved
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That's the only issue here that I can see - if they were sober I'm sure they'd realise you were keeping them all out of trouble, and not just yourself! :)

Best defense is to not be there in the first place :p
 
messiah khan said:
Ive just got back from the pub(Pub quiz, im not normally there on mondays, honest) And two of my mates got started on. However, IMO they half started it. Fair enough, the group that they got started by were far from friendly, but my mates really didn't help the situation, ie. kept staring, talking back to them etc. Me however, being a pacifist and not as drunk as my mates, kept telling them to leave it, and that if something kicked off, I was not wiling to get involved. In the end we got a taxi, and left the trouble behind us. However one of my friends is really annoyed about the fact that I wasnt willing to get involved with standing up for them, despite the fact that IMO they were half the trouble. So the question is; Was I right to stand my moral highground, and how far would you go to defend your mates, even if you think they were in the wrong?
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Nah you did the right thing by discouraging a fight. If you'd joined in with your friends you might have all got into a fight... which could have involved knives or worse.

If a fight had developed then I'd have said it'd be good to help your friends out defensively and try and drag them away.

As it was it sounds like you were the one who stopped a fight, so good for you. Your friends will get over it, they're just mouthing off. If they can't apreciate what you did then maybe they deserved a mild kicking.
 
I would have done the same as you. If it had come to blows I'd have still been in there to get 'em out though, regardless of who started things.
 
There should be a seperate Forum area. I have seen 5-6 this week about fighting.

"Fighting"
Talk about any recent bumps, scraps and near misses in here.

But back on topic, you did the right thing and kept the moral high ground. Well done for standing up to your mates as peer pressure can really affect people.
 
i think you did the right thing by getting them to walk away.

Personally I try and avoid escalating a situation if theres trouble brewing, but i'll never leave a mate to get a kicking if it kicks off no matter who started it.
 
Cheers guys. I dont think I defused the situation as such, as neither my mates or the other group were particulary listening to me. However, if a fight was to kick off, I wasn't willing to join in. Fair enough, I would probably jump into the middle and try and split people up etc., but I was certainly not willing to join a fight that I knew was due to some stupid reason(We couldnt hear the quiz, due to the table next to us being too loud AFAIK) Any aggression annoys me, however my mate really annoyed me due to the fact that she thought that I was in the wrong, and should have stood up for her in the argument, as well as any ensuing fight.
 
If its one on one I wont get involved unless my mate is going to get really hurt.

If some starts on a mate for no reason I will normally be the one to either calm it down or kick off :/

KaHn
 
Defend your friends regardless.

If it's your friends who started it, try and break up any violence and stop the situation going from bad to worse (still a form of defense). It's really not nice to take a beating whilst your friends stand by and do nothing.
 
Otacon said:
I would have done the same as you. If it had come to blows I'd have still been in there to get 'em out though, regardless of who started things.
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I'm with Octagon here, if you can stop it kicking off in the first place that's good, but if it comes down to it you've got to be in there too.
 
oh i take it the person that wanted to start the fight is a she, they always like to start and know full well they dont join in. you did the right thing.
 
i'd try and stop them getting in a fight at all costs,

but,

if something did end up happening, i'd make sure my buddies were ok even if they were partly to blame.
 
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