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Alder Lake-S leaks

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Grim5, 19 Jan 2021.

  1. Journey

    Capodecina

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    Location: West Midlands

    Ah, fair enough, maybe it isn't up on retail yet but Intel advised they are doing bundles, a bit like back in the RAMBUS days, not sure how much kick back you'll be getting if they offer them in the UK.
     
  2. scubes

    Mobster

    Joined: 28 May 2007

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    Location: Saturn’s moon Titan

    I would like a bundle I hope use do them..
     
  3. Gibbo

    Commissario

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

    Posts: 35,309

    Location: OcUK HQ

    Its a bit different from the Rambus days though, I have several DDR5 samples in house and most memory manufacturers will have DDR5 available, mostly based in Micron IC but availability should be ok. Whereas on the Rambus side there was very little availability so the whole bundling was really the only way, I still remember my Abit TH7-II. :D

    Also plenty of DDR4 options as well, the move to DDR5 does not yield really any improvement in our testing but at the same time were comparing against the best DDR4 to very early 4800MHz DDR5 and the DDR5 will of course stretch its legs more and more, were working on hopefully getting some 5000MHz plus kit in for launch but as the saying goes, there is simply not enough time at present to try and sort everything out, so we shall on that one.
     
  4. Joxeon

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    Location: Uk

    Any idea on DDR5 pricing yet compared to the binned DDR4
     
  5. Journey

    Capodecina

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    The 32GB kits I've seen are roughly double the cost of an entry level DDR4 3200 kit, no idea what the lines of OCUK will be charging at retail.
     
  6. rare

    Sgarrista

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    Location: Sussex

    Rambus! That takes me back…are we getting old? :/
     
  7. Journey

    Capodecina

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    Location: West Midlands

    That depends, RAMBUS feels pretty new sometimes. :p :D
     
  8. Grim5

    Sgarrista

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    How is overclocking? We see lots of manufacturers every week bragging they've got their kit at 8000mhz+ but they don't mention how easy that is, is every DDR5 sample doing 8000mhz cl50 or is it rare?
     
  9. scubes

    Mobster

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    so how much do you reckon these will be when they hit in November? I'm more curious to see how much the motherboards and ddr5 is gonna cost maybe to much..
     
  10. KNiVES

    Capodecina

    Joined: 4 Jan 2005

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    Competitor already leaked prices - spoiler alert, they are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. £550 for an i7 12700K. £310 for an i5 12600K.
     
  11. jigger

    Capodecina

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    Seem a listing for a DDR5 board and that was pricy. TBH a few shops seem to do this on the release of new hardware. It’s like they are signalling to each other to bump the prices.
     
  12. Joxeon

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    Good thing the CPUs perform the same with DDR4 according to Gibbo so no need to shell out on DDR5.
     
  13. jigger

    Capodecina

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    With very high end DDR4. And we are talking 8pack very high end levels.
     
  14. Joxeon

    Sgarrista

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    Yeah but nothing stopping you from sticking a cheap set in and losing a couple of % performance as you would Zen or any other platform.
     
  15. jigger

    Capodecina

    Joined: 28 May 2007

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    Or losing a lot of percentages and beta testing thread director. Nothing is stopping *you* doing that. It might stop other people though.
     
  16. Robert896r1

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 28 Sep 2018

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    Since many of you love CB so much...

    [​IMG]
     
  17. 4K8KW10

    Capodecina

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    Last edited: 9 Oct 2021
  18. SmokSmog

    Associate

    Joined: 16 Feb 2020

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    This guy said that it was running at 4,9Ghz on B660 without TVB
    12900K at 4,9Ghz scores 768 single thread in cinebench R20
    5950X scores at best 648 at stock 4,9Ghz boost

    so 12900K has 18,5% higher IPC compared to Zen3.

    12900K should score 830 at 5,3Ghz

    [​IMG]
     
  19. humbug

    Caporegime

    Joined: 17 Mar 2012

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    Pretty much exactly the same score as the 5950X.
     
  20. tommoT.Striker

    Gangster

    Joined: 1 Jun 2019

    Posts: 393

    @Robert896r1 , I think it was you that alerted people early on to Rocket Lake latency issues, how AL looking for you so far?

    Nice single core score, but I suppose in respect to multicore, seen it been there for a year.