am I right or wrong?

Morbius · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:01

blastman said:
nearly, I started the car in the car park before the RAC got there, but other wise, yes. And no, I haven't got the details of the guys from RAC

Try ringing them, they might be able to help you. They must have a record of your job and who was assigned to it.

Even if they're not allowed to provide you with his details, they might be able to pass your details on to him along with a note to contact you.

Participant · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:02

blastman said:
Probably not the best idea for me to give out his details on a public forum. I may issues with the guy, but still. Thanks for the offer thou

I was only kidding

. I was just fishing on the off chance that you'd do it out of rage...then I was going to link him to this thread

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blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:02

Morbius said:
Try ringing them, they might be able to help you. They must have a record of your job and who was assigned to it.

Even if they're not allowed to provide you with his details, they might be able to pass your details on to him along with a note to contact you.

good shout. I'll try that now

blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:03

Robbie G said:
I was only kidding . I was just fishing on the off chance that you'd do it out of rage...then I was going to link him to this thread .

git

blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:07

Can a cam belt just slip slightly and knock the timing out? or does it have to come off completely for the damage to be done?

Fr0dders · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:47

[TW]Fox;17951432 said:
If your wifes Dad is a mechanic surely he'd want to fix his daughters car for free even if it was somebody elses fault

i'd bust everything for my kids. Don't understand this at all.

But then my family is completely disfunctional in many ways, so i kind of can.

DM · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:49

MrLOL said:
i'd bust everything for my kids. Don't understand this at all.

But then my family is completely disfunctional in many ways, so i kind of can.

Yea sod that bloods only thicker than water when it suits them, you cant pick relatives only mates.

blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 17:49

DiamondMark said:
Yea sod that bloods only thicker than water when it suits them, you cant pick relatives only mates.

true that

alexthecheese · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:00

No advice on the cars, but I wouldn't get a deposit for a house from him if he behaves like this. Years of trouble beckons.

naefeart · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:01

Bad luck, but I can't understand why you took the car to him in the first place :confused:

I would have picked another garage, any other garage. It's not like you didn't already know your wife's father is a plank.

TaKeN · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:12

To be fair naefeart, he realised he was a plank. But not quite as thick a plank as he does now!

InvaderGIR · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:19

Morbius said:
Try ringing them, they might be able to help you. They must have a record of your job and who was assigned to it.

Even if they're not allowed to provide you with his details, they might be able to pass your details on to him along with a note to contact you.

They are meant to provide you with a slip of paper with all the information about your breakdown/call out on it. Every single time I've used them (loads of times

) I've always received the paperwork despite myself and the RAC guys not really caring about it, we've always had to fill it all out. If the RAC guy didn't supply you any paperwork then you need to speak to head office about it as they should have which would provide you with a backup against the mechanic.

Fr0dders · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:21

they have to fill this in to cover their backs in case somebody claims that they broke the car.

THey make a note at the time of the condition it was found in ,and the condition it was left in.

Even if they can't put you in touch with the bloke, they should surely be able to send you a copy of this paperwork, as you're supposed to be given a copy at the roadside.

Joshy · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:34

Stupid question time:

Does anyone care to explain to me how a failed aux belt could cause a timing belt issue?

Every single car I can remember coming across the Aux belt and timing belt are two separate entities with the aux belt on show and the timing belt hidden away underneath the timing cover, right? Now, the only places the two even remotely meet in my mind are at the end of the crankshaft and even then (at least in the case of my Toyotas) the two belts don't share the pulley (aux belt only), so I'm struggling how to see how the aux belt could cause the timing to slip?

The only thing I can think of is some cars having the aux belt and the timing belt running off of the same pulley side by side?

I apologize in advance if I'm missing something simple.

InvaderGIR · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:39

You've run a 205 and never come across this issue?

Aux belts can come astray and catch on cam belts...that's why I rebuilt the 205 GTI last summer. Granted more modern cars should have better cambelt covers.

Joshy · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:44

InvaderGIR said:
You've run a 205 and never come across this issue?

Aux belts can come astray and catch on cam belts...that's why I rebuilt the 205 GTI last summer.

I've honestly never heard about this before until now, that's why I'm struggling to get my head around it.

How/where do they catch exactly?

blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:45

Joshy said:
Stupid question time:

Does anyone care to explain to me how a failed aux belt could cause a timing belt issue?

Every single car I can remember coming across the Aux belt and timing belt are two separate entities with the aux belt on show and the timing belt hidden away underneath the timing cover, right? Now, the only places the two even remotely meet in my mind are at the end of the crankshaft and even then (at least in the case of my Toyotas) the two belts don't share the pulley (aux belt only), so I'm struggling how to see how the aux belt could cause the timing to slip?

The only thing I can think of is some cars having the aux belt and the timing belt running off of the same pulley side by side?

I apologize in advance if I'm missing something simple.

i can go on what i've been told but apperently a aux belt coming off can quite regualy take the cam beth with it as the aux belt can wrap behind it.

I'm waiting for rac to get back to me.

Whatever happens with them makes no difference anyway. Even if they clearly say, starting it at the garage caused the damage he wont do anything about it. That would mean he was wrong and that never happens!

Still, my dad and come up trumps with another car for us.

Christmas is going to be fun, we're supposed to be over at thiers. Think i'll keep hold of my work turkey and stay at home.

Class a douche bag.

Dogbreath · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:45

MikeHiow said:
Tell him, Ok, seeing as you care about your Daughter and Grandchildren so much, and despite you ignoring the advice of the RAC and wrecking our only mode of transport, I'll sort it, arrange for the car to be taken to another garage and fixed, just never step foot near my house or my children again

Yep, grand children normally have massive leverage on grand parents. Even if if the a-hole Father in law isn't fussed, his wife will be. It's pretty shocking if you have to use these tactics though; it doesn't sound like a very healthy familly to me.

Joshy said:
Stupid question time:

Does anyone care to explain to me how a failed aux belt could cause a timing belt issue?

A broken aux belt can get pulled in and wound up behind the crank pulley where the timing belt is, and cause the timing belt to either slip or break. Some engines are more prone to this than others.

blastman · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:48

back to a real question, do u think that i caused the timing belt to slip by starting it?

Joshy · 7 Dec 2010 at 18:54

Dogbreath said:
A broken aux belt can get pulled in and wound up behind the crank pulley where the timing belt is, and cause the timing belt to either slip or break. Some engines are more prone to this than others.

Makes perfect sense. It's just something I've not ever come across/heard about/thought was realistically possible until now. Thanks for that

blastman said:
back to a real question, do u think that i caused the timing belt to slip by starting it?

The problem is that you can ask yourself this question all you like but it is something that you'll never know for certain

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