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Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by doody, May 15, 2019.

  1. Minstadave


    Joined: Jan 8, 2004

    Posts: 24,734

    Location: Rutland

    Logitech got scammed a different way. Their returns policy was so generous you just needed to give them a serial number and you got sent a replacement product.

    If memory serves a third party was taking orders for Logitech goods, then submitting warranty claims to Logitech (not sure how they got the serial numbers) and Logitech would send out a replacement to the person that ordered originally.

    There's a post on it elsewhere with swearies, it's easy to find, describing how it was done.
  2. _tucker_


    Joined: May 8, 2013

    Posts: 194

    Location: London

    I suppose I never really thought about that. It’s a shame parts have got so ridiculously priced now days.
  3. opethdisciple


    Joined: May 18, 2010

    Posts: 18,651

    Location: London

    Well surely one way round this issue is to always look out for the 'Fullfilled by Amazon' notice.
  4. gerardfraser


    Joined: Apr 27, 2014

    Posts: 415

    Not everyone gets ripped off.If Amazon hired employees who had a clue or at least looked at the product that might help.So I bought a used from the warehouse Zotac RTX 2080 AMP for $350 or so less than new .Turned out great for me and the used from the warehouse Zotac RTX 2080 AMP for $350 less was a better overclocker and more silent than my brand new Evga RTC Ultra XC.

    Then I bought another it was fine,then bought some cables and then I started hearing about the scam which I new about for years anyway.I think I pushed my luck far enough and I might be done with the AMazon wharehouse thing.
    Still had very enjoyable experience non the less.
  5. JonnyG1982


    Joined: Jul 13, 2009

    Posts: 424

    Never thought of this. Great idea. Been wanting an upgrade for a while but refused to be ripped off. Here's a way to get an upgrade without the shafting. Anyhoo, sure the world's richest man who's made his money off the sweat of working people to the bone at minimum wage can afford a hit or two (Only half serious :) )
  6. ancientmariner


    Joined: Nov 4, 2011

    Posts: 939

    Location: N.I

    Yup, bought a gtx 1080 from them and inside the box was a 10 yr old gtx card. People are swapping cards left and right and sending them back. Clearly the returns department dont inspect thoroughly.
  7. Gerard


    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 31,111

    Location: Ireland

    Some cards could easily sneak through the cracks, you could buy a strix 2080ti and swap it with a vega 64 strix and most likely they would be none the wiser. Though not something i would chance considering how many ti's were dying left and right :p
  8. humbug


    Joined: Mar 17, 2012

    Posts: 31,254

    Oh erm? hum....

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Sep 10, 2009

    Posts: 1,035

    Yep, so easy to get away with. There is no proof that it's a deliberate attempt to deceive. These people are *********.

    Edit: Okay swapping stickers over is quite damning isn't it
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
  10. willhub


    Joined: Jan 3, 2006

    Posts: 21,538

    Location: MediaCityUK

    Could do with an Aorus 2080Ti to replace my Aorus 1080Ti.....
  11. BigBANGtheory


    Joined: Apr 21, 2007

    Posts: 617

    You could say to Amazon but if you were relying on that in court you would definitely loose the argument on "the balance of probabilities", no one would believe that with such high value goods and you knowing exactly what you were doing.
  12. vapor matt

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jan 19, 2003

    Posts: 1,868

    Location: west sussex

    I am beginning to think this thread promotes scamming and should be deleted to be honest, swapping stickers over ect is fraud and I wonder how many have read this thinking hmmmm going to try this. I am amazed this thread isn't closed already and deleted.
  13. bru


    Joined: Oct 21, 2002

    Posts: 6,981

    Location: kent

    To be fair I very surprised it wasn't closed straight away for mentioning competitors.
  14. ubersonic


    Joined: May 26, 2009

    Posts: 20,551

    Easy in theory yes because of what you say.

    Easy in practice no because how can they prove beyond reasonable doubt that it wasn't done by a warehouse worker between the return arriving and the card going back out?

    The mods have made it clear that it's okay to mention Amazon by name now depending on the context (basically as long as it isn't directly promoting buying an item being sold in competition, which this thread isn't).
  15. Troezar


    Joined: Aug 6, 2009

    Posts: 3,324

    If anything it's putting me off buying from them! I've had a few issues with their service recently. If the price is reasonably competitive I'd rather buy from OCUK.
  16. G J


    Joined: Oct 3, 2008

    Posts: 796

    It's like the posts/threads about people bragging on the Internet how they deliberately broke their BFG cards to get "free" upgrades.
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
  17. Aretak

    Wise Guy

    Joined: May 26, 2014

    Posts: 1,748

    I mean, you have to consider the fact that Amazon aren't a specialist PC hardware retailer. The chances of any given member of their staff being highly knowledgeable about PC components is going to be pretty low to start with, and when you consider that Amazon also give their staff ridiculous targets that require working themselves into an early grave to hit, I'm not surprised that things don't get much more than a cursory glance. They likely don't even have time to open the box if they want to keep up. I'm sure Amazon get a truly astronomical amount of returns across products from the whole site, and they're never going to be able to find enough people to specialise in all of them and handle that sort of volume. I guess they just accept this kind of scam as the cost of doing business, and it still probably works out cheaper than the alternative of carefully (and slowly) inspecting every item.
  18. ancientmariner


    Joined: Nov 4, 2011

    Posts: 939

    Location: N.I

    I worked for amazon for 5 years so am well versed in their procedures and yes, things can fall through the cracks. However, in this case the card i recieved was returned to them upside down in the box, covered in dust and was clearly used. Ironically, when i returned it to them i got an email from their returns department asking me why i had returned an old, used product. So they do check things, just not all the time.
  19. LambChop


    Joined: Apr 4, 2011

    Posts: 3,349

    No, you would not lose.

    Because Amazon did the very same thing and sent cards out to unsuspecting buyers from their warehouse with different cards in them. The probability of that happening should be less because they actually have a system in place.
  20. MrRockliffe


    Joined: Apr 14, 2014

    Posts: 2,743

    Location: Loughborough

    They do indeed check on the odd occasion - I've bought stuff, and had a completely different item show up. Upon returning, I've been asked why I returned a different item.

    Problem is, these scams are getting quite complex - people buying an RTX 2060 and 2080 Ti, and returning the 2060 in the 2080 Ti box. Since manufacturers often use very similar/same coolers throughout their series, it's very difficult to tell the difference. Unless it specifically says on labels etc :p