I have been waiting for a month and a half for this cpu to drop in price but it has remained at £240. When you consider all the dual cpus retailing at not to far off prices isn't it about time they lowered the price for single core cpus? I am about to give in and fork out the cash but am i wise to wait maybe another few weeks?
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AMD 4000+ to drop in price?
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When buying PC parts you can almost gaurantee that if you wait a few weeks it will have gone down in price.
Wait a few weeks watch it go down in price, leave it a few more weeks and likely to have dropped again.
Unfortunately you just have to pick a point when everything you want is available and then buy, otherwise you will be waiting forever.
Wait a few weeks watch it go down in price, leave it a few more weeks and likely to have dropped again.
Unfortunately you just have to pick a point when everything you want is available and then buy, otherwise you will be waiting forever.
for £240 you'd be mad not to go dual core and clock it up a bit... an x2 3800 is that sort of money and I've seen plenty of them clocked up to 2.5/2.6 with half decent air cooling.
You're getting twice the cpu for the same money!
You only have to look at the performance jump with the dual core patch for quake 4 to see games publishers are starting to take note too.
You're getting twice the cpu for the same money!
You only have to look at the performance jump with the dual core patch for quake 4 to see games publishers are starting to take note too.
Soldato
I'd either stretch to £30 extra and get the Opteron 165 (great overclocker with the 1MB cache) or go for the X2 3800+ for £217
If you want to stay with a single core CPU then go for the A64 3700+ as mentioned for £145 (OEM) or £160 (retail). As mentioned above, it's only 200Mhz slower at stock and a better clocker - the latest steppings hit 2.8Ghz with ease on air with low volts
If you want to stay with a single core CPU then go for the A64 3700+ as mentioned for £145 (OEM) or £160 (retail). As mentioned above, it's only 200Mhz slower at stock and a better clocker - the latest steppings hit 2.8Ghz with ease on air with low volts
Aj, so that Opteron would a better choice than the amd 4000+? If it is way more overclockable then i would consider spending that little extra.
I should have mentioned this before but i currently own a 3500+ which i believe to be faulty and hence why i am eager to do a slight upgrade and then RMA my 3500+ and sell it (already have a buyer) Dual core is a different world to me at the moment and i would prefer to have the fastest single core cpu and just sit back and upgrade to dual cpu when i am building my next machine. Reading stories that a 3800 dual cpu would be outperformed by a single core 3800 in games doesn't exactly warm me to it. Sure some games my support dual and some may not but that sounds to hit and miss to me so at the moment i want to keep it simple as all i use my PC is for games and nothing else matters.
I should have mentioned this before but i currently own a 3500+ which i believe to be faulty and hence why i am eager to do a slight upgrade and then RMA my 3500+ and sell it (already have a buyer) Dual core is a different world to me at the moment and i would prefer to have the fastest single core cpu and just sit back and upgrade to dual cpu when i am building my next machine. Reading stories that a 3800 dual cpu would be outperformed by a single core 3800 in games doesn't exactly warm me to it. Sure some games my support dual and some may not but that sounds to hit and miss to me so at the moment i want to keep it simple as all i use my PC is for games and nothing else matters.
Soldato
IMO the Opteron would be a better choice.
If an application is single threaded, like the majority of games, only one core of a multi-core CPU will be used. That is, a 2Ghz single core CPU will perform like a 2Ghz dual core CPU. The X2 3800+ runs at 2Ghz stock and it is effectively two A64 3200+ CPUs so it will perform like an A64 3200+ in single threaded apps
Newer games are becoming multi-threaded - there is a patch out for Quake IV at the moment which improves performance on dual core systems.
It also really helps with multi-tasking and leads to a more responsive PC
The Opteron should easily clock to 2.6Ghz, if not higher. The 4000+ will top out out a similar level so they will perform the same for single threaded applications but the extra core is there to give a big boost in multitasking and multi-threaded applications
If an application is single threaded, like the majority of games, only one core of a multi-core CPU will be used. That is, a 2Ghz single core CPU will perform like a 2Ghz dual core CPU. The X2 3800+ runs at 2Ghz stock and it is effectively two A64 3200+ CPUs so it will perform like an A64 3200+ in single threaded apps
Newer games are becoming multi-threaded - there is a patch out for Quake IV at the moment which improves performance on dual core systems.
It also really helps with multi-tasking and leads to a more responsive PC
The Opteron should easily clock to 2.6Ghz, if not higher. The 4000+ will top out out a similar level so they will perform the same for single threaded applications but the extra core is there to give a big boost in multitasking and multi-threaded applications
Oh your recommending the AMD Opteron UP 170 Dual Core San Diego 2.0GHz 2MB Cache? I thought you were pointing me towards the AMD Opteron UP 150 single core cpu.
Opteron UP 170 is 2.0ghz, if i could have a guarentee that i could clock it to 2.6ghz then i would go for it as it would be worth having that extra oomph from the dual core and i always intended to clock my single core to 2.6ghz so really i would be losing nothing but the extra cash to make that jump to dual core.
Opteron UP 170 is 2.0ghz, if i could have a guarentee that i could clock it to 2.6ghz then i would go for it as it would be worth having that extra oomph from the dual core and i always intended to clock my single core to 2.6ghz so really i would be losing nothing but the extra cash to make that jump to dual core.
Soldato
I was actually looking at the Opteron 165 as it's cheaper and closer to the price of the A64 4000+ 
Nothing's guaranteed unfortunately but the current stock of Opteron 170s have been amazing overclockers, all reaching 2.7/2.8Ghz on stock volts
The 165 is also a good clocker - I haven't yet seen one that hasn't made at least 2.6Ghz
Nothing's guaranteed unfortunately but the current stock of Opteron 170s have been amazing overclockers, all reaching 2.7/2.8Ghz on stock volts
The 165 is also a good clocker - I haven't yet seen one that hasn't made at least 2.6Ghz