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AMD 7nm GPU News and Rumours 2018/2019

Glad to see some rumours at least! I'll be getting the first available high end AMD card that gives me a decent performance boost over my 980Ti. Was tempted to get a Vega 64 but it's not much of an upgrade in a lot of games. Not going nvidia this time as AMD has better Linux support and I can actually use my Freesync displays properly.

If it comes out around the same time as the 3950x even better as I'll only have to redo my loop once :P
 
4K8KW10 said:
No, it isn't Apple's marketing name but AMD's own marketing name. APUs contain Vega 3, Vega 8, Vega 10, Vega 16 and Vega 20.
It is Vega not Polaris :D
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OK, I see AMD does call it VegaM 20 just to futher confuse things.

But the GPU is definitely Polaris, simply marketed as Vega. It is the same GPU intel uses, and the architecture, instruction set and drivers are all Polaris. It is semi-customized, something like a heavily cut-down 570 that perfoms close to a 560. Compared to Polaris 560 it has slightly more cores but lower clock, this overall lower power consumption. AMD added HBM support and this allows a further reduction in power but limits it to 4GB.




Anyway, it is a 14nm POlaris chip with HBM, it is certainly not the new and unreleased 7nm part desigend for HPC that will sell for 6-10k per unit.
 
Something not right about this Apple MacBook pro thing.

The apple site clearly states

Coming late November
Radeon Pro Vega graphics.

The 15-inch MacBook Pro now offers Radeon Pro Vega GPU options — the first discrete mobile Vega GPUs in a notebook. Featuring the same graphics architecture used in iMac Pro, Vega delivers an enhanced compute engine and utilises High Bandwidth Memory (HBM2). HBM2 doubles the memory bandwidth to the GPU while doing so at considerably lower power, so more of the graphics power budget can be used by the GPU itself. The result is significantly faster graphics performance — up to 60 per cent faster than the Radeon Pro 560X15 — for tackling demanding video, 3D, rendering and compute workloads.
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and also with 6 core I9 CPU's

Processor
More power at its cores.
With eighth-generation Intel Core processors, MacBook Pro reaches new heights in compute performance. The 15-inch model now features a 6-core Intel Core i9 processor that works up to 70 per cent faster than the previous generation, enabling up to 4.8GHz Turbo Boost speeds.
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Intel don't make a 6 core I9 with a Radeon GPU attached.

So totally confused now.:confused:
 
bru said:
Something not right about this Apple MacBook pro thing.

The apple site clearly states



and also with 6 core I9 CPU's



Intel don't make a 6 core I9 with a Radeon GPU attached.

So totally confused now.:confused:
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It isn't attached, it is a dedicated graphics card: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-Pro-Vega-20-GPU-Graphics-Card.361941.0.html

The AMD Radeon Pro Vega 20 is a dedicated graphics card for laptops. It was introduced as an option to the 2018 MacBook Pro. The graphics card offers 20 CUs (1,280 shaders) and 4 GB HBM2 memory. The performance should be on a level with the Radeon RX Vega M GL (also 1,280 shaders) and therefore between a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti.
 
MD CEO Lisa Su – Nov 27, 2018 – 22nd Annual Credit Suisse Technology, Media & Telecom Conference
“We believe, we will be very competitive overall and that includes the high-end of the GPU market. Obviously there are new products out there from our competition. We will have our set of new products as well and we will be right there in the mix”

“As it relates to ray tracing in particular I think it’s an important technology, but as with all important technologies it takes time to really have the ecosystem adopt [it]. And we’re working very closely with the ecosystem on both hardware and software solutions and expect that ray tracing will be an important element especially as it gets more into the mainstream, frankly, of the market.”

– Transcripted by Wccftech.com
https://wccftech.com/amd-pledges-to-take-on-nvidias-high-end-turing-with-7nm-radeon-gpus-in-2019/
AMD Pledges to Take On NVIDIA’s Turing With 7nm Radeon GPUs in 2019
 
Cooper said:
I'd want to know what AMD now define as 'high end', before getting too excited.

In Nvidia's world, the 2070 is now 'high end'.
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It's a purely semantic argument but AMD could force Nvidia to re-evaluate this stance:

RTX 2070 = GTX 1080
Navi => GTX 1080 (rumoured)
Therefore Navi = RTX 2070

You say Nvidia consider this "high end" yet AMD consider this "mid-range" because they've always said Navi will be a mid-range product.

So if AMD consider RTX 2070 performance to be mid-range, I'd say their notion of "high end" is a good chunk up. But actually achieving this probably won't happen until Arcturus.
 
4K8KW10 said:
AMD Will Be Launching The Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs, APUs And A Radeon GPU At CES
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Could they have a lot of Vega20 chips with broken memorycontrollers? Maeby its Vega20 addition to WX series with only 2 hmb chips. Or maeby its gaming Vega with higher clocks and faster memory this time around, with 2 memory chips. With faster memory and higher gpu clocks it could be 1080Ti/2080 competitor. 2080Ti is on its own league but on other segments Nvidia didnt really lift the competition this time. With Nvidias pricepoints AMD could bring Vega20 to the market, Nvidia can ofcourse bring their price points lower but those turing chips are big and I think they want to keep margins big as they possible can. I still think it would make more sense to it be WX series cards if there is even any announcment. The silence over Navi leaks makes me think its second half of 2019 and not coming anytime soon.
 
muon said:
Looks like AdoredTV was right.

Time for egg on faces. Also suggests the specs were probably correct given that no one believed the timings given.
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This was posted on another Navi thread. The only thing new from what we've "known" for a while is the part about a new Radeon GPU "believed" to be Vega II. Right now I don't know what to think, but I still doubt it. The 7nm gaming Vega talk still persists.

Originally I thought we could see Vega 20 cut down/salvaged for a gaming card, but I was told that the overall process of stacking HBM meant you couldn't salvage anything. Then it was suggested that Vega 20 has had a boat load of new compute added to it, but the core arch is the same which means gaming performance won't be much high than what we already have (and there was a dubious leak running Vega Instinct on the Final Fantasy benchmark which showed practically zero performance gain over Vega 64). So I went off the idea of a 7nm Vega gaming card, especially when the Navi leaks came out rendering both Polaris and Vega obsolete with their performance levels. Then this Vega II trademark came up which I don't think means anything tbh, but sparked the 7nm gaming Vega talk all over again.

So, although I'm still in the "no 7nm gaming Vega" mindset, I don't know. There is still Vega and RX 580/590 stock to shift so Navi won't be launched any time soon, and even if there is going to be a super duper Vega II gaming card, that's going to have a limited shelf life in the face of "Big Navi" talk from one of AdoredTV's sources.

Ryzen 3000 for sure. If we have new APUs then they'll be Zen+ with Vega graphics as suggested because Navi isn't ready (and even if it is, I don't think AMD will tip their hat as to what Navi can and cannot do by launching a Navi APU now). Vega II? Doubtful.
 
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