AMD budget build opinions

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:17

I'm still so undecided about the AMD A8 or the Phenom :/

But I do like the sound of the price for all those components.

Does the AMD A8 have the GFX for games available at the moment?

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:18

The IGP is good, but get a dedicated 7750.

Stulid, I'm surprised you haven't suggested anything and are full on going along with it.

The Intel i3 3220 with 7750 will kick the snot out of the A8 in gaming, it's not even comparable.
A Phenom II 955 with 7750 will do the same to the A8.

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:18

Martini1991 said:
But you're buying a worse system.

Has everyone lost logic? We never suggested GT640's for gaming, now we're suggesting sub GT640 performance?

AMD/Intel aside, a 7750 can be put in the budget and is better than an A8 IGP, a lot better.

Could you spec up a system with the 7750 for around the same price and I will make a decision. I do accept your opinion but its all money at the moment.

Thanks in advance!

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:19

I did spec it

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22971364&postcount=30 (Intel)

And then the AMD CPU and board ; http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22971377&postcount=33

Both of those will still be better gamers than the A8.

I'd take the i3 3220 over the AMD one personally, but I'd take the AMD Phenom II 955 and 7750 over the A8 with IGP any day of the week.

Bacon? · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:20

Martini1991 said:
But you're buying a worse system.

Has everyone lost logic? We never suggested GT640's for gaming, now we're suggesting sub GT640 performance?

AMD/Intel aside, a 7750 can be put in the budget and is better than an A8 IGP, a lot better.
That Trinity build you're buying is worse than the AMD and 7750 I spec'ed, gaming wise it'll get kicked around by the 7750 GPU.

Its more expensive as well. Seeing as you would want at least a G620

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:21

Bacon? said:
Its more expensive as well. Seeing as you would want at least a G620

It's not, given the budget he's on about.

stulid · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:21

IncognitoX said:
I'm still so undecided about the AMD A8 or the Phenom :/

But I do like the sound of the price for all those components.

Does the AMD A8 have the GFX for games available at the moment?

Sure does

Idleman · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:25

If you can stretch your budget.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7750 Power Edition Transthermal OC 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £89.99
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.40GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £71.99
1 x **B Grade** MSI 990XA-GD55 AMD 990X Chipset (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard ** FREE NEXUIZ GAME ** £70
1 x Kingston HyperX 3K SSD 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SH103S3/120G) £64.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £42.95
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 400W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £36.98
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £25.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
Total : £431.88 (includes shipping : £12.50).

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:32

Thanks for your efforts Martini1991, but I'm just not sold by intel. Also i'm not looking for super graphics, just enough to run some light games at a decent framerate.

Thanks Idleman, I'm not so sure about buying used parts, I wanna start fresh with retail parts

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:34

It doesn't matter whether or not you're sold by Intel.
Getting an A8 over a discrete GPU like the 7750 is ludicrous, regardless of the CPU.

The 7750's far from a super GPU, but they fit in the same budget.

I know Stulid likes his APU's, but what happened to logic?

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:35

Idleman, Could I buy that GFX later on and still fit it to the AMD A8 build?

stulid · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:36

As the Trinity motherboard you have selected is mATX, you can get away with a smaller (cheaper) cases.

Other cases also have USB3.0 front ports.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-018-XG&groupid=2362&catid=1572&subcat=
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-031-XG&groupid=2362&catid=1572&subcat=
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-111-SV&groupid=2362&catid=1092&subcat=

But as you have to look at it all day long, you pick the one you want.

stulid · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:36

IncognitoX said:
Idleman, Could I buy that GFX later on and still fit it to the AMD A8 build?

Yes.

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:36

http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...=amd-trinity-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-part-1

Compares to GT640 etc.

And here's a comparison of the GT640 against the 7750 ;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/535?vs=612

Stulid, are you purposely trying to get him to get a Trinity regardless that it's the lesser choice in this system? I don't care if he gets a Phenom II or an Intel i3/Pentium, but suggesting an A8 IGP over a 7750 is absolutely ridiculous.

stulid · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:39

Martini1991 said:
Stulid, are you purposely trying to get him to get a Trinity regardless that it's the lesser choice in this system? I don't care if he gets a Phenom II or an Intel i3/Pentium, but suggesting an A8 IGP over a 7750 is absolutely ridiculous.

It's up to the OP to decide what he can afford thank you, I'm not try to do anything apart from answer his questions.

subbytna · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:40

Martini1991 said:
It doesn't matter whether or not you're sold by Intel.
Getting an A8 over a discrete GPU like the 7750 is ludicrous, regardless of the CPU.

The 7750's far from a super GPU, but they fit in the same budget.

I know Stulid likes his APU's, but what happened to logic?

10 out of 10 for persistance Martini...

Martini1991 · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:42

subbytna said:
10 out of 10 for persistance Martini...

I just want people to get the best they can.

It happened on another forum, someone suggested a high end Trinity build, but you could have had a 7850 on the budget.

It's like people have forgotten we didn't use to tout the GT640 as a gaming card, why are we now suggesting sub GT640 performance?

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:49

Martini1991, could you do me a massive favour and spec up your best build opinion because I think you make sense. Using the GFX card you speak of with the Phenom XII 965 BE as well as the other parts I have used.

SubPrimePrePar · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:50

Forgoe a case and get an i3 and a 560 448 ti/7850. Cases are ten-a-penny and a good one isn't required in such a build. That's what i'd do on such a budget.

Please somebody spark the intel vs amd debate. Love reading sound advice getting completly ignored.

IncognitoX · 16 Oct 2012 at 14:52

The intel vs AMD is of minimal use in this debate.

This?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire HD 7750 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £83.99
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.40GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £71.99
1 x Kingston HyperX 3K SSD 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SH103S3/120G) £64.99
1 x Asus M5A78L LE AMD 760G (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £57.98
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £42.95
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB2133C11DC) £39.95
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 400W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £36.98
1 x Samsung SH-S222BB/RSMS 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black/Silver/Biege) - Retail £14.99
Total : £427.92 (includes shipping : £11.75).