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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

1) I used to use hubs but i don't any more as they can have issues. i have never had issues with the natives.

2)I don't want to buy a real controller card because some things i like for free even if it aint as good.

3) Because i would be buying those motherboards anyway even so i may as well use what's on them because its cheaper that way and its hard enough migrating my gfx cards, sound card, TV card as it is now, i don't need more to worry about.

4) i would not right a mobo off being it didn't have 8 rear I/O panel USB ports either its just that you pulled just that from the list out of context.

And also its not about what you think i need its about what i want.

Its called choice and its my choice and if there is a product that meets my choice then thats the product that i buy.

In short you run a ridiculously niche array of hardware and your 'value added' benefit from an AMD board is representative of a tiny minority. You could do far better and far more flexible but would rather get it bundled than pay.

Fair enough but as said, you represent a very very small crowd of people, somewhat making your point about what you can get per £ on an AMD board a little more diluted.
 
In short you run a ridiculously niche array of hardware and your 'value added' benefit from an AMD board is representative of a tiny minority. You could do far better and far more flexible but would rather get it bundled than pay.

Fair enough but as said, you represent a very very small crowd of people, somewhat making your point about what you can get per £ on an AMD board a little more diluted.

Yes of course I could always do better & more flexible but it does not get away from the fact that you need to throw more money at it.

So instead of £6000 it would be £6500-£7000.

And no it does not matter if people would use all the options, they are still getting more for the money anyway.
 
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And no it does not matter if people would use all the options, they are still getting more for the money anyway.

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Not sure if serious.

More for your money = Value.

You do not get value from something you do not use. Who cares that a £100 AMD board has 200 SATA ports and a £100 Intel board has 8 when you only need 2?
 
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Not sure if serious.

More for your money = Value.

You do not get value from something you do not use. Who cares that a £100 AMD board has 200 SATA ports and a £100 Intel board has 8 when you only need 2?

Value is not exclusive to use because you pay for it all anyway.
200 Sata cost more to produce than 8.

Very few people will make full use of there mobo but there is always something that one has that other does not that fits your individual needs & its for no one to dictate what those needs should be or what's the more important to others when everyone's needs are different no matter how unique.

And its enough of the semantics.
 
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You seemingly miss the point.

No i got your point.

But the point is that a person would not base buying a mobo on those factors that they have little use for, there would be other factors that are important to them & most likely still be cheaper with AMD.

The problem the way you put it across as if im saying that USB ports are an important factor to others when i have said nothing of the sort and the fact its important to me which you think i should not care about because its not important to you & others.
 
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Final8y is right in that a board with more features for the same price is intrinsically (is that how it's spelt?) better value, even if those features are not used

obviously if a board with fewer features for less money, but still including all the features you want, is better value. however the key point is "at the same price".
 
Wow this thread is big intrinsically your correct SheepBeast. Only been looking at intel for my upgrade this year but been waiting for parts an by the time they arrive this cpu should be out.
I'm only interested in gaming so will I be better off sticking with intel 2500k or not ?
 
my hunch says that the 2500k will have better single-threaded performance, hence better for many games, however i think BD will have better multi-threaded performance. given increasingly more games are supporting more cores, the 6-core BD may be a better buy than the 2500k.

it all depends on the pricing really.
 
my hunch says that the 2500k will have better single-threaded performance, hence better for many games, however i think BD will have better multi-threaded performance. given increasingly more games are supporting more cores, the 6-core BD may be a better buy than the 2500k.

it all depends on the pricing really.

Depends on whether you play mainly console ports or cutting edge PC games? If it's the latter, now and much more so in future, more cores will be your friend.
 
Think I can wait to jan 2012 if I really really tried will have saved up so much money by then price will not matter.
Still want good value for performance though so see what the benchies turn up.
Console games I play on my PS3 but sometimes get a PC copy as well if the game is good.
Cutting edge PC games is what have the PC for only upgrade every 2 -3 years the gpu every year if needed.
 
Just to confirm: is "Trinity" also going to be based on BD architecture? I can see great things happening to netbooks and laptops with an APU of 1xBD core and 1x4850 GPU (or maybe 2 weaker GPUs working in crossfire, with one shutting down when not needed).

Now if only they'd hurry up and bring out colour e-ink screens with high refresh rates, so we can have laptops that last days instead of hours!!!
 
Just to confirm: is "Trinity" also going to be based on BD architecture? I can see great things happening to netbooks and laptops with an APU of 1xBD core and 1x4850 GPU (or maybe 2 weaker GPUs working in crossfire, with one shutting down when not needed).

Now if only they'd hurry up and bring out colour e-ink screens with high refresh rates, so we can have laptops that last days instead of hours!!!

It'll supposedly be Piledriver, i.e. the revised Bulldozer architecture. Looks like it'll debut for SFF desktops and laptops before Zambezi / Interlagos replacement (due middle of 2012).
 
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