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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

I've written programs for distributed computing at University. The performance is veeeeeeeeeeeeery nice indeed. Wrote a distributed web and file server.
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Excellent! Looking forward to playing with Intel's thunderbolt and other fast interconnects? I assume you are running on a GbE LAN with some form of MPI implementation, atm. :o
 
I don't understand the defending of AMD.
Yes, we need AMD, but we need them to compete, not for them to release lacklustre products. We need them to actually compete with Intel in all cases, not just a few small scenarios because they've got the core count advantage.

@ Wannabedammed, did you see the link to the conference I posted?
EDIT : I tried googling for "P67 not supporting IvyBridge", it just brings up news of P67 supporting Ivybridge. Lame.
 
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Martini1991 said:
I don't understand the defending of AMD.
Yes, we need AMD, but we need them to compete, not for them to release lacklustre products. We need them to actually compete with Intel in all cases, not just a few small scenarios because they've got the core count advantage.

@ Wannabedammed, did you see the link to the conference I posted?
EDIT : I tried googling for "P67 not supporting IvyBridge", it just brings up news of P67 supporting Ivybridge. Lame.
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I think most of us like to defend the underdog,end of the day without AMD , Intel could do anything with pricing etc...scary thought .
 
Elevon said:
I think most of us like to defend the underdog,end of the day without AMD , Intel could do anything with pricing etc...scary thought .
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Like I said, we need them, but we need them to be competitive.
At this point, can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if Intel managed to get SB-E out before AMD can get BD out, and it can't compete? At least if AMD get BD out and it's an SB killer, SB-E beating it won't matter, as it'll cost a lot more.
Don't forget, SB is a mainstream platform, and it's over 6 months old now. Ideally AMD, for the enthusiast of us, want an SB killer.
 
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http://vr-zone.com/articles/the-upgrade-path-to-ivy-bridge-might-be-blocked-by-changes-to-uefi/13513.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Existing-Motherboard-Might-Not-Support-Intel-s-Ivy-Bridge-CPUs-After-All-220621.shtml

Seems legit. If the issue does indeed relate to ALL currents "Ivy Bridge Compatible" 1155 mobos, then that's a gigantic own-goal (again, after the initial 1155 recall). Who's going to want to RMA their board for a CPU upgrade?

Also, the article states that currently only the factories are able to completely wipe and flash the new BIOS, service centres don't yet have such a facility.
 
pmc25 said:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/the-upgrade-path-to-ivy-bridge-might-be-blocked-by-changes-to-uefi/13513.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Existing-Motherboard-Might-Not-Support-Intel-s-Ivy-Bridge-CPUs-After-All-220621.shtml

Seems legit. If the issue does indeed relate to ALL currents "Ivy Bridge Compatible" 1155 mobos, then that's a gigantic own-goal (again, after the initial 1155 recall). Who's going to want to RMA their board for a CPU upgrade?


Also, the article states that currently only the factories are able to completely wipe and flash the new BIOS, service centres don't yet have such a facility.
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Having read the article.
It sounds like an issue, but one that can be resolved with RMA'ing for the upgrade.

It's more an inconvenience than anything.
 
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Martini1991 said:
Like I said, we need them, but we need them to be competitive.
At this point, can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if Intel managed to get SB-E out before AMD can get BD out, and it can't compete? At least if AMD get BD out and it's an SB killer, SB-E beating it won't matter, as it'll cost a lot more.
Don't forget, SB is a mainstream platform, and it's over 6 months old now. Ideally AMD, for the enthusiast of us, want an SB killer.
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You know Intel are releasing some new Sandybridge CPUs,I think AMD put back to October because they wanted to release more BD models and improve BD production so demand won't be an issue.

Only thing that makes sense.
 
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well as i said before im not bothered if BD beats intel or not. has long as it performances faster than my 1090t, i'll be happy.
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But we need it to beat Intel, or we'll always have to let Intel have the performance premium.
If AMD can compete on a performance level, prices would be better etc, progression would be more fierce.
My opinion of course.
 
Martini1991 said:
Having read the article.
It sounds like an issue, but one that can be resolved with RMA'ing for the upgrade.

It's more an inconvenience than anything.
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If they can't resolve it, I'd call weeks / months without your motherboard and a recall costing billions a bit more than an inconvenience. This would be much worse than the initial 1155 recall, as it would effect far more boards.
 
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If they can't resolve it, I'd call weeks / months without your motherboard and a recall costing billions a bit more than an inconvenience. This would be much worse than the initial 1155 recall, as it would effect far more boards.
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It's a large inconvenience, but it's still an inconvenience.
Though for me? Nope, two BIOS's, having read that I'll be fine.

For the rest of people? Stupid Uefi.
 
Martini1991 said:
But we need it to beat Intel, or we'll always have to let Intel have the performance premium.
If AMD can compete on a performance level, prices would be better etc, progression would be more fierce.
My opinion of course.
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My opinion is amd win's on value/price + more features on they boards
 
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pmc25 said:
If they can't resolve it, I'd call weeks / months without your motherboard and a recall costing billions a bit more than an inconvenience. This would be much worse than the initial 1155 recall, as it would effect far more boards.
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Well the costs are to intel not to us, so I wont be too upset. Time without a motherboard would suck though, Maybe we'll get a courtesy motherboard while we wait :p

But seriously, aslong as they offer to fix it for free, I'll be happy. Inconvenienced yes! But its better than paying out for a new board come upgrade time.

Although to be honest, Ivy upgrade doesnt interest me all that much.

As for the conference post(Martini1991), I must have missed it, currently reading backwards through the thread, as I've obviously missed a few links! Like the ones Jayster posted for me above. :)


gareth170 said:
My opinion is amd win's on value/price + more features on they boards
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Agreed, But I'm a raw performance junkie :p If i had the money I'd be running a 980x. lol
 
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What worries me with BD, from a competitiveness point of view, is the fact that AMD are going down the high clock frequency route for each market segment entry point, again. :( Let's hope it is not a negative in the end.
 
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What worries me with BD, from a competitiveness point of view, is the fact that AMD are going down the high clock frequency route for each market segment entry point, again. :( Let's hope it is not a negative in the end.
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Of course it's negative.
JF brushed us off with "If you care about single threaded performance, buy a single core CPU".
:p
 
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