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AMD Carrizo APU Massive Leak – 40W TDP, Excavator Cores, 512 SP and Assorted Benchmarks

Davedree said:
Where did I say that? I know my stuff don't make me out to be stupid,
All apu's have evolved over time, but only since trinity have they adopted instruction sets that follow the Hsa standards.

Llano was unable to share memory data between cpu-gpu, Kaveri was the first to be able to do so.
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Woah, I was certainly not trying to make anyone out to be stupid.

May be I should have said "are you also saying that the Llano wasn't an APU?"

Instead of reading what you put and interpreting it to say that Llano isn't a true APU.

As for Humbugs

humbug said:
Llano was a CPU + Onboard Graphics with APU ambitions, but it was not an APU as the iGPU's cache was not interconnected.

The CPU and iGPU were separate enterties, its might as well have been an Athlon X4 + HD 6450 Discrete GPU.

There, i said it.
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Good on you, you have an opinion and your not afraid to state it.

People might have to do a double take, with me putting a across a point in AMD's favour and you being against them for a change. ;)
 
bru said:
Woah, I was certainly not trying to make anyone out to be stupid.

May be I should have said "are you also saying that the Llano wasn't an APU?"

Instead of reading what you put and interpreting it to say that Llano isn't a true APU.

As for Humbugs



Good on you, you have an opinion and your not afraid to state it.

People might have to do a double take, with me putting a across a point in AMD's favour and you being against them for a change. ;)
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Role reversal is fun sometimes :D
 
sorry I realise that my last post might come across as condescending.

"Good on you, you have an opinion and your not afraid to state it."

Rather than edit it, I will just attempt to clarify, I am genuinely pleased to see you have an opinion that seems to go against the grain and not be afraid to state it publically.

What of course would now be really funny is if certain other AMD supporters were to come and comment in your favour just be cause it is me and you having this discussion. ;):D;)
 
bru said:
sorry I realise that my last post might come across as condescending.

"Good on you, you have an opinion and your not afraid to state it."

Rather than edit it, I will just attempt to clarify, I am genuinely pleased to see you have an opinion that seems to go against the grain and not be afraid to state it publically.

What of course would now be really funny is if certain other AMD supporters were to come and comment in your favour just be cause it is me and you having this discussion. ;):D;)
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"I am genuinely pleased to see you have an opinion that seems to go against the grain and not be afraid to state it publically"

That ^^^ is how i understood it :)

What of course would now be really funny is if certain other AMD supporters were to come and comment in your favour just be cause it is me and you having this discussion. ;):D;)
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You and i have agreed a few times now, both for and against whatever vendor.

I have no shame in saying i am a passionate AMD supporter, i like the company, i like its people, i like how innovative they are, i like how they try and think outside the box... and i like what they do.

But they also have some pretty major flaws, nor are they always honest or entirely truthful.

Its just another reason why i like them, they are a company with a human face, they are accessible, they also speak their mind, even when really they shouldn't. they are not in some faceless emotionless bubble.

Perhaps they should be, perhaps to some it makes them look unprofessional, really they are as unprofessional as any company, they just wear it on their selves.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
Not really, AMD haven't released a true desktop CPU successor to the FX chips since 2012, we're now going into 2015, so it isn't sensationalist to say AMD have withdrawn from the desktop market. They have so it's a fact. We're looking at 2016 for something new from AMD. Four years...

If the desktop APU lines don't get a new arch in 2015 (Carrizo), then AMD have withdrawn there as well. They have to do what's financially viable for them as a company, doesn't mean we have to like it.
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Well it was only phrased by the editor that way for effect with a punchy rhetorical "What's next?" to follow it. It was sensationalist and as a statement not true.
It's only four years if you exclude the FM2 kaveri (steamroller) as mainstream desktop. They also continue to sell FX chips anyway and as far as we are aware do plan on introducing their Zen architecture. Nothing about that suggests withdrawing from mainstream desktop market, it says more that they are not going to waste money on development/manufacture of a possible particular product line when it could be better spent not at all, on their next arch or elsewhere.

Besides as I mentioned in my other posts I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Carrizo, Carrizo-L or Beema make its way to desktop in 2015. My money is on an AM1 update at some point.
 
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Mrjobby said:
I find APUs so :o

Meh CPU with a Meh GPU added on.

Have their place (AM1 stuff is fun!) but not exciting.
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Boring makes AMD money and keeps them alive and in the game.

Also isn't it a bit unrealistic to expect a company whos annual turnover is less them Intels annual trading profit to be producing a chip that can out function its competitor?
 
Freddie1980 said:
Boring makes AMD money and keeps them alive and in the game.

Also isn't it a bit unrealistic to expect a company whos annual turnover is less them Intels annual trading profit to be producing a chip that can out function its competitor?
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They have done it before.

Also I'll be rodgered if apus are making them money. You can't get them in any of their target markets without building at home as they simply arnt available. Speaking as a 1090t user and a Kavari builder.
 
Nutella33 said:
They have done it before.

Also I'll be rodgered if apus are making them money. You can't get them in any of their target markets without building at home as they simply arnt available. Speaking as a 1090t user and a Kavari builder.
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You could argue the that Athlon64 success was due to Intel's mistakes and single mindedness on clockrate that cost them the performance crwon.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Boring makes AMD money and keeps them alive and in the game.
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Personally, I think the APUs are just about the most interesting development in the CPU world. Elite performance, no, but it's pushing the boundaries in other respects.

They only really make sense if HSA actually takes off, though.
 
cheesyboy said:
Personally, I think the APUs are just about the most interesting development in the CPU world. Elite performance, no, but it's pushing the boundaries in other respects.

They only really make sense if HSA actually takes off, though.
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Agreed, in a few years they may well be good enough to no longer need a DGPU for more demanding games, and that's when sales and interest should really spark. There is def a market in APU's I just don't feel current ones are good enough to capture the gamers, once they are I think they will be extremely popular with gamers and Overclockers.
 
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Freddie1980 said:
You could argue the that Athlon64 success was due to Intel's mistakes and single mindedness on clockrate that cost them the performance crwon.
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The Athlon 64 success was down to Intel dropping the ball and AMD being there to pick it up. Intel made the wrong decisions and AMD made the right ones. AMD deserve no end of credit for taking the lead at a time that was quite pivotal for CPU architecture.
 
Freddie1980 said:
You could argue the that Athlon64 success was due to Intel's mistakes and single mindedness on clockrate that cost them the performance crwon.
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Ha you could argue Intel's success recently is due to amds mistakes and single mindedness on cores and the bulldozer architecture. It works both ways.
 
humbug said:
"I am genuinely pleased to see you have an opinion that seems to go against the grain and not be afraid to state it publically"

That ^^^ is how i understood it :)

You and i have agreed a few times now, both for and against whatever vendor.

I have no shame in saying i am a passionate AMD supporter, i like the company, i like its people, i like how innovative they are, i like how they try and think outside the box... and i like what they do.

But they also have some pretty major flaws, nor are they always honest or entirely truthful.

Its just another reason why i like them, they are a company with a human face, they are accessible, they also speak their mind, even when really they shouldn't. they are not in some faceless emotionless bubble.

Perhaps they should be, perhaps to some it makes them look unprofessional, really they are as unprofessional as any company, they just wear it on their selves.
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Pretty much this is my opinion too, so i can agree with those what you stated in your post. AMD has to work on lot of things but first, to look more professional. This reaching the redteam thing out is a bit childish. Hope they will learn and focus on the right things.
 
If people from sandy are not moving further up the chain , then AMD have at least picked the best moment not to be releasing CPUs and concentrating on other markets , as soon as Intel gives those people something worthwhile . AMD will need something ...
 
Bonjour said:
Most impressive.

I'd certainly be considering a Mini-ITX kaveri build if I were building a computer for someone whom gaming wasn't a primary concern.
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Second this.

I might even go for this as my next rig judging by the time I have spare to game these days.
 
Bonjour said:
The Athlon 64 success was down to Intel dropping the ball and AMD being there to pick it up. Intel made the wrong decisions and AMD made the right ones. AMD deserve no end of credit for taking the lead at a time that was quite pivotal for CPU architecture.
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Beating them to the 1Ghz crown was another example. Everyone loves an underdog. I love having an alternative to the mainstream, however sometimes I have to bite the bullet and go intel/nvidia as much as it pains me.

Performanc/£ > Brand name in my principles.
 
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