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AMD Carrizo APU Massive Leak – 40W TDP, Excavator Cores, 512 SP and Assorted Benchmarks
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I'm not sure thats news, Tech Report, Carrizo is a mobile part, power ranging from 2.5 Watts to 28 Watts.
It's like saying "The Intel Core i3-380M will not be coming to Desktop" well derp, no.
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You have misunderstood humbug. AMD's Kaveri was an architecture used in notebooks and desktops, the new gen architecture Carrizo won't be coming to desktop. So desktop will not utilize the arch at all, not just a specified chip like your i3-380M example, but will not get any chips based on Carrizo architecture. This could be a disappointing to those wanting a desktop APU upgrade this year. Although that user base is obviously small if it makes sense for AMD not to launch any new chips for it, so I doubt no one will care to much. 2016 will hopefully see new architecture in both AMD desktop CPU and APU, god knows it needs it.
AMD 'Kaveri' was used in Notebook / desktops.
AMD 'Carrizo' will just be used in Notebooks.
Carrizo is not the name of the architecture, Kaveri is also not the name of its architecture, Neiver is Mullins which is the same architecture.
Those names are code Names for the CPU branch, Kaveri = Desktop, Mullins = Mobile. Vishera = FX83##/63##/43## Desktop.
Kaveri was never used in Mobile.
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Kaveri is in mobile, and it isn't the name of the architecture, the architecture is the Steamroller core and Mullins is based off a derivative of the bobcat architecture... though code names being stupid I can't currently recall what it was called.
Grr, was irking me I couldn't remember so looked it up.
Brazos group of chips including ontario and zacate were based on bobcat. gen 2 was the Jaguar architecture which gave Kabini and Temash, the former having some desktop variants while Temash was aimed at tablets with Kabini mostly a laptop/netbook level chip.
Mullins/Beema are based on Puma cores which really were VERY similar to Jaguar in architecture but mostly power optimised so mostly gained through lower power usage and higher clocks/turbo's in the same power envelope.
With Carrizo you've got Excuvator cores, the successor to Steamroller, there is definitely mobile versions, I'm not entirely clear if it's coming to desktop or not, there shouldn't be a reason not to put it in similar FM2+ mobos Kaveri goes in to as not an awful lot is changing though honest to god it's such a boring stop gap biding the time to 2016 that I haven't read an awful lot about it.
Grr, was irking me I couldn't remember so looked it up.
Brazos group of chips including ontario and zacate were based on bobcat. gen 2 was the Jaguar architecture which gave Kabini and Temash, the former having some desktop variants while Temash was aimed at tablets with Kabini mostly a laptop/netbook level chip.
Mullins/Beema are based on Puma cores which really were VERY similar to Jaguar in architecture but mostly power optimised so mostly gained through lower power usage and higher clocks/turbo's in the same power envelope.
With Carrizo you've got Excuvator cores, the successor to Steamroller, there is definitely mobile versions, I'm not entirely clear if it's coming to desktop or not, there shouldn't be a reason not to put it in similar FM2+ mobos Kaveri goes in to as not an awful lot is changing though honest to god it's such a boring stop gap biding the time to 2016 that I haven't read an awful lot about it.
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The Excavator based Toronto APU was meant to be released for professional markets:
http://cdn3.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/AMD-Opteron-APU-Roadmap.jpg
A bit of a shame if Carrizo is not released for desktop TBH. The CPU not only will have improved single threaded IPC(which Excavator is mean to bring),but more importantly the IGP is based on the latest GCN version,meaning much better tessellation performance and also the texture compression technology seen in AMD Tonga.
http://cdn3.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/AMD-Opteron-APU-Roadmap.jpg
A bit of a shame if Carrizo is not released for desktop TBH. The CPU not only will have improved single threaded IPC(which Excavator is mean to bring),but more importantly the IGP is based on the latest GCN version,meaning much better tessellation performance and also the texture compression technology seen in AMD Tonga.
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Kaveri is used in mobile > http://www.anandtech.com/show/8119/amd-launches-mobile-kaveri-apus
Also 'Kaveri' is the name given for the APU architecture. 'Steamroller' is the CPU part, GCN is the GPU part. 'Kaveri' is the name given to that packaged APU architecture.
'Carrizo' is given to the next APU architecture. 'Excavator' is the CPU part, GCN is the GPU part. 'Carrizo' is the name given to that packaged APU architecture. According to that site 'Carrizo' will only be used in mobile and not in desktop.
+1, 2016 is a long time to wait for something new, at least a new APU would have given something to AMD users this year, obviously didn't make financial sense to do so. I guess we could see a Kaveri refresh in on desktop. AMD A10 7870K or something
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AMD Carrizo Benchmarks Leaked – Double The Performance of Kaveri
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-carrizo-graphics-benchmarks-leaked-double-performance-kaveri/#ixzz3PDmNjDoM
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AMD Roadmap Update: Kaveri Refresh Landing this Year, Carrizo Might Come to Desktop in BGA
Read more: http://wccftech.com/kaveri-refresh-landing-carrizo-bga-desktop/#ixzz3PDmYBnm5
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-carrizo-graphics-benchmarks-leaked-double-performance-kaveri/#ixzz3PDmNjDoM
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AMD Roadmap Update: Kaveri Refresh Landing this Year, Carrizo Might Come to Desktop in BGA
Read more: http://wccftech.com/kaveri-refresh-landing-carrizo-bga-desktop/#ixzz3PDmYBnm5
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It appears Carrizo will be made using a modified 28NM process and it appears to use much denser wiring:
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/20141127_677727.html
So not only are there are design changes,but there are also deep physical changes in circuit design for Carrizo over Kaveri.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/20141127_677727.html
So not only are there are design changes,but there are also deep physical changes in circuit design for Carrizo over Kaveri.
Ok, wow, if thats true colour me impressed, very impressed.
But what about the CPU?
They must surely have come up with a memory bandwidth solution for an APU to be matching R7 265 Graphics performance. Normal DDR3 dual channel bandwidth would be a major choke, as it has been for the predecessors, otherwise.
Deja vu,
don't be fooled again by sisoftware rumours again, please Humbug.
We might aswell copy everything from this thread below and paste it into this thread renaming it to Carrizo.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=24982686
That's HSA, it's quite a different thing. And that performance does translate, see spoiler.
Besides that ^^^^^^, this is about Pixel Fill Rate, the GPU's horse power.
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Exciting chip. AMD's expensive forray into APU development appears to finally be paying dividends.
I wonder if they have an agreement with Sony and / or Microsoft not to release this for the desktop.
It appears it would make for an awesome Steam box in the living room.
I wonder if they have an agreement with Sony and / or Microsoft not to release this for the desktop.
It appears it would make for an awesome Steam box in the living room.
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It might come to desktop in BGA soldered chipset form. Carrizo isn't compatible with FM2+ according to info so far. So we most likely see a new desktop chipset for next gen architecture APU's next year.
A Brix or Zbox would be good if Carrizo is semi decent.
Next year should be when APU's really come into their own. Kaveri was already pretty decent at 720P, once they become able to cope with 1080P, I think there popularity should skyrocket with budget gamers and OEM systems etc.
I suspect the reason for the no "Plug-in Socket" is down to HBM, there would be a compatibility issue, it would need to be in one unit SoC form, which Laptop's are.
On Chip-BGA Motherboards is a way round that.
I just realised something, the Sandra results linked in your quote are the results with an R9 M200 Series (Discrete Laptop GPU), it quite clearly states that in the Sandra results.
WCCF messed that one up.
But this one states.
It is what it is