AMD Launches DTX Motherboards

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DTX is about production efficiency and is a manufacturing standard, thus is compatible with ATX standards for expansion slots and socket placement etc.

Can't make it any more simple than that.
 
Nothing to discuss really.
It's basically ATX by another name.
AMD don't push new standards - they never have.
The positioning of components is thus so that it is still ATX complient - which is the important bit.
If we're due a form factor change then Intel will tell us when they are ready.
 
stoofa said:
If we're due a form factor change then Intel will tell us when they are ready.
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I seem to remember Intel telling us they were ready 2 years ago, and that ATX was dead in the water.

AMD had a huge desktop market share in 2006, something like 75% depending on which source you listen to, they're no longer the underdog and can make decisions like this. The Inquirer are reporting that ASUStek already have designs, take that with a pinch of salt, but I can well believe it.
 
mosfet said:
I seem to remember Intel telling us they were ready 2 years ago, and that ATX was dead in the water.

AMD had a huge desktop market share in 2006, something like 75% depending on which source you listen to, they're no longer the underdog and can make decisions like this. The Inquirer are reporting that ASUStek already have designs, take that with a pinch of salt, but I can well believe it.
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AMD have never had a 75% desktop share. They had a 75% share of the 'enthusiasts high end' retail market. The overwhelming number of Desktop PC's are Intel Celeron based.
 
Isn't this form factor for Media PC's and the like?

It has nothing to do with whether AMD push new standards.
BTX died because afaik it required royalties to be paid and to be honest, turning an ATX mobo upside down (like in a lot of Lian-Li's) accomplishes a similar thing.

It doesn't matter about market share. This is a SFF and business PC (low power requirements) open standard that is easy and cheap (4 boards from 1 pcb plate) to manufacture. I am sure the uptake will be pretty good. mATX or uATX or whatever they are called are the only other ones around and they are only mobo standards, not full form factor standards.
 
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Kamakazie! said:
Isn't this form factor for Media PC's and the like?

It has nothing to do with whether AMD push new standards.
BTX died because afaik it required royalties to be paid and to be honest, turning an ATX mobo upside down (like in a lot of Lian-Li's) accomplishes a similar thing.

It doesn't matter about market share. This is a SFF and business PC (low power requirements) open standard that is easy and cheap (4 boards from 1 pcb plate) to manufacture. I am sure the uptake will be pretty good. mATX or uATX or whatever they are called are the only other ones around and they are only mobo standards, not full form factor standards.
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its main use will be for business, its not pushing a home desktop "revolution" although im sure people are welcome to buy them for home use, but creating a compact, easy and cheap to build form factor for AMD helps them cement the large inroads they have been making into Intels business markets which until 2006 were seen as impenetrable, but of course now Dell is shipping AMD systems to business consumer's and for far less money when your talking about bulk purchase, AMD is really trying to milk any advantage it can out of its new markets and this standard will go a long way to cementing their place in them.
 
Corasik said:
AMD have never had a 75% desktop share. They had a 75% share of the 'enthusiasts high end' retail market. The overwhelming number of Desktop PC's are Intel Celeron based.
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Having a look around most sources report about a 30/70 AMD to Intel ratio. I got the 75% figure from googling "AMD Desktop Market Share 2006", the first 4 results reported 80% for US desktops.
 
BTX was a design that would have helped reduce the huge burden that Intel Netburst based CPU's made on a case's heat extraction. However as performance per watt took over this has fallen by the road side.

It annoys me actually as arctic cooling state BTX was the reason their new fans exhaust inside the case. The main reason I bought one for my old 9800pro was so that all that heat went straight out where it belonged.
 
stoofa said:
If we're due a form factor change then Intel will tell us when they are ready.
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Yeah like when they told us we had to go BTX just so we could cool those craptastic super hot Prescott POS.
Not to mention the huge housebrick heatsinks that came with them.
Yeah BTX really caught on. :rolleyes:

Its right up there with Rambus! :D
 
Digital Punk said:
Yeah like when they told us we had to go BTX just so we could cool those craptastic super hot Prescott POS.
Not to mention the huge housebrick heatsinks that came with them.
Yeah BTX really caught on. :rolleyes:

Its right up there with Rambus! :D
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hey, rambus was good! its only problem was you needed to sell a kidney to be able to afford it... :rolleyes: :D
 
locutus12 said:
hey, rambus was good! its only problem was you needed to sell a kidney to be able to afford it... :rolleyes: :D
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Yeah! Exactly! :D

So, what did intel do when they realised their Rambus mistake?

Well, due to legal requirements, they couldn't go straight to DDR. (which incidentally, AMD had pushed)

So, they went from Rambus to........PC133 SDRAM! :D

Yay! Good call Intel, LMFAO!

At least they finally got it right with C2D. ;)
 
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