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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Gregster, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. Gregster

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    Location: Essex innit!

    https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-23-nv...upport-hardware-ray-tracing-coming-next-year/

    NVidia killer? Sounds good to me and with RT :)

    Pinch of salt because of the source lol
     
  2. shankly1985

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    Bring it on this is my upgrade path from VEGA 64
     
  3. 4K8KW10

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  4. nashathedog

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    The usual WCCF fluff where they cover every base.
     
  5. DarrenM343

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    It'll be a NV 20 series killer...….which by then will be 2 years old and soon to be superseded :).
    Expecting AMD to excel in both CPU and gaming GPU segments is a very high expectation.
     
  6. JediFragger

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    'Poor Volta' anyone? Navi has the capability but I'll believe it when I see it :)

    Plus it'll more than likely be fighting Ampere not the fairly poor Turing.
     
  7. LoadsaMoney

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  8. 4K8KW10

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    AMD must stop with their ridiculous attitude towards CrossFire and release a dual Navi 10 card, RX 5700 X2 which should completely destroy RTX 2080 Ti.
     
  9. TNA

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    Lol :D

    Which movie was that from? Snake Eyes? I watched that movie at the Cinema back in the day :)


    The only one being ridiculous here is you man. If they have no driver support for it, why would they release it, for people who enjoy benchmarks? As it won’t be any good for gaming...
     
  10. Phixsator

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    Highly unlikely unless they find some other way of "crossfiring" than just traditional way. It has to work without game devs optimizing for it. I wouldn't mind it though if it were to happen.
     
  11. TNA

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    Not interested at all if it will be like before. Never ready on a games launch and in many games not working at all. I had a 295x2 and as nice as it was when it worked, when new games started coming out like Witcher 3 there was no support for a very long time.
     
  12. 4K8KW10

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    It is much cheaper and easier to develop proper multi GPU DX12 explicit support, than it is to design and develop transistors on silicon to give the same or comparable performance increase :D

    There is the thing called
    Explicit DirectX12 Multi GPU rendering
    https://gpuopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GDC2017-Explicit-DirectX-12-Multi-GPU-Rendering.pdf

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  14. bru

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    What they need is two 10's, looks at thread title..... Navi 23 opps. :D:p:D
     
  15. TNA

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    No good any of that until we see results. It is all too easy giving nvidia hard time about their ****** RT performance so far, but this is even worse. Lol.
     
  16. Poneros

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    Agreed, mGPU is the future. But it's gonna be years until some proper adoption happens. As for "Nvidia killers", I'm not holding my breath. It's been clear for years now that the best thing you can do if you want high-end performance is to just buy Nvidia's offering on launch day and grit your teeth for what it costs. AMD's not gonna compete, and certainly not in the same timeframe. Hell, even these rumoured new cards are going to do what? Tie the 2080ti 2-3 years later? Meh. And it's not gonna be all that cheaper anyway.
     
  17. TNA

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    Until it is in consoles and games are developed for it, then it will not happen. Basically not any time soon. The future you are talking about is a very distant future..
     
  18. 4K8KW10

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  19. TNA

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    Last I checked they don’t and people have to find workarounds to get it to work and even then you have stuttering etc. **** that.

    Even die hard Nvidia guys like Gregster gave up SLI as it is ****. That says it all. The above benchmarks are meaningless to me.
     
  20. 4K8KW10

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    There will be no other way in the future for extracting more performance than to use multiple chips, either on a single substrate, single PCB, or in parallel cards.