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**AMD Radeon 390X Graphics Card WCE**

mmj_uk said:
Like it or not though power draw is important to very many people for whom benchmarks aren't the be all and end all. To use a car analogy do you buy your car based purely on the top speed and (lowest) price? there are countless other factors which are going to be more important in the day to day use of it over the several years that you own it.

AMD users tend to have tunnel vision whereby the only metrics that matter are paper specifications, price and performance which is why they can't understand why people pay more for NVidia.
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Of course I would buy the fastest and cheaper car, because speed is what counts in the end (while the other variables are at perceived "ok" level). Power draw isn't a issue really, except if your PSU is the limiting factor. Heat, noise? Only if you are a fanatic, which I doubt many are. :)
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
Whilst I like a nice car analogy, in this case it doesn't translate well. If you stick a 290x in one case and a 970 in another and sit down to game, you won't notice a difference. Or at least 99.999pc of people won't. On the other hand if you bought a car with no air conditioning or no sat nav when these were important, then it would have a real negative impact on your enjoyment of the car.

With GPUs, if the frames are the same and the noise is about the same, then you have to be really searching to spot differences in image quality. And if you're really searching you're doing it to justify your purchase.

Power draw has never been a problem up till now. The 780ti was no retiring violet when it came to sucking from the wall. Now it appears like it's always been vastly important. Except it wasn't until the 9xx series.
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As I have used both AMD and nVidia recently, I feel I have a fair opinion on both and for me, nVidia win out with things like ShadowPlay - 144Hz @ 1440P - DSR - G-Sync. These are a few bits that nVidia do well. AMD drivers are fine for normal gamers but those extra touches just ain't there.
 
mulpsmebeauty said:
Whilst I like a nice car analogy, in this case it doesn't translate well. If you stick a 290x in one case and a 970 in another and sit down to game, you won't notice a difference. Or at least 99.999pc of people won't. On the other hand if you bought a car with no air conditioning or no sat nav when these were important, then it would have a real negative impact on your enjoyment of the car.

With GPUs, if the frames are the same and the noise is about the same, then you have to be really searching to spot differences in image quality. And if you're really searching you're doing it to justify your purchase.

Power draw has never been a problem up till now. The 780ti was no retiring violet when it came to sucking from the wall. Now it appears like it's always been vastly important. Except it wasn't until the 9xx series.
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Yeah but the same performance without hoovering out the power says its possible so ofcourse it becomes a point.

And yes this entire thing is about justifying your purchase. :)

doesn't excuse the fact that I think AMD could clean up if they get the 390x and 280x launches right :) And they won't need 3 free games to do it
 
TwsT said:
People are stupid but it is upto AMD to fix that you can't sit around saying people are stupid WCYD

Capitalism doesn't work like that.


Look at other brands who make PSU's they used to make good ones now they sell rubbish ones off their reputation for the same price. Eventually that company will pay the price but for now the blinkers are on and the people are buying.
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AKA Corsair. lol

I agree with your whole argument. AMD need to sort it out.

But I tell ya one thing. I ain't paying not £500 for a GPU any time soon. lol
 
Gregster said:
As I have used both AMD and nVidia recently, I feel I have a fair opinion on both and for me, nVidia win out with things like ShadowPlay - 144Hz @ 1440P - DSR - G-Sync. These are a few bits that nVidia do well. AMD drivers are fine for normal gamers but those extra touches just ain't there.
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yet they aint there yet the 19th is soon better late than never!
 
people spend more for Nvidia GPUs ...............NO NO NO , they dont !!!

the GTX 970 was dead cheap on release......the 290X was far too expensive, you need to remember what it was like back then.

the Titan X...?..........well we dont know yet, but if it's over a thousand quid it'll flop, it needs to be similar to a 970.... cheap

anyone that buys a Titan X will probably realise that it'll be history as soon as the 390X comes out, but it'll still be brilliant at 1080p as a single card solution only.
 
TNA said:
AKA Corsair. lol

I agree with your whole argument. AMD need to sort it out.

But I tell ya one thing. I ain't paying not £500 for a GPU any time soon.
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this is a first for AMD they are essentially saying **** it lets push out the 390X it rocks we don't need to wait anymore it won't impact sales of 290's becuase it's going to be too expensive for that market.

SO Assuming the 390X goes well. When do we see a 380x?
 
TwsT said:
wasn't directed at you. Your questions have been fine even if my thought patterns are wild! :)

Was directed at Sir Humbug protector of the crimson realm , captain of the red team, over seer of all things claret!
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No need for any of that nonsense. I have been very critical of AMD when they deserve it.

If you want healthy GPU competition you have to lay criticism where its deserved.

You blamed AMD for Nvidia's releasing half backed or mid range cards.
They just did that with a more rounded muscular enthusiast card from AMD already on the market.

If AMD win the the 390X vs Titan X argument which are you going to buy?
 
The Titan X is not going to be cheap, even £800 isn't cheap.

You're saying a 12gb card will be the best solution for 1080p?

Come on Mal, use your brain mate.
 
Mal X said:
people spend more for Nvidia GPUs ...............NO NO NO , they dont !!!

the GTX 970 was dead cheap on release......the 290X was far too expensive, you need to remember what it was like back then.

the Titan X...?..........well we dont know yet, but if it's over a thousand quid it'll flop, it needs to be similar to a 970.... cheap

anyone that buys a Titan X will probably realise that it'll be history as soon as the 390X comes out, but it'll still be brilliant at 1080p as a single card solution only.
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yeah but a $1300 single gpu card. :D

That said someone bought an 8pack system and only had a monitor with a VGA connector. Some people be crazy
 
Ayahuasca said:
The Titan X is not going to be cheap, even £800 isn't cheap.

You're saying a 12gb card will be the best solution for 1080p?

Come on Mal, use your brain mate.
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he's taking the **** :)

He's using my example that 1080p is the norm and he's mocking the fanboy mentality.

Or at least I hope he is :)
 
Mei said:
no he's not! he's bat p00p crazy just like greg is lol
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he is right though the GPU will get maxed on before that memory fills up it certainly doesn't represent VFM though

Ayahuasca said:
I used to think that as well but he's not the sarcastic type, he's just a fruit loop and I love him for it :D
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OK crazy people.

I highly doubt many of those 34% 1080p users on steam are Titan owners :D
 
funny thing is amd stuck 8gb on 290s then people were like wow these can cope at 4k :p

4gb/8gb the card don't have enough power :D

was smart move though.

380 is a oc 290 basically.
 
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