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AMD rebranding 57xx series to 67xx series

I think people are getting over excited over nothing myself, IF the Barts XT (I don't care what it is called) arrives at a good price\perfromance point, I'll get one... IF it does not, then I hope to pick up a 460 for a decent price instead.

The 5850\5870 will not drop in price, from my reading (not confirmed) they have stopped making the chips, so board makers just have the current stock of chips, so supply will still be less than demand keeping prices high. All IMO of course :)
 
Phoenixdancer said:
nvidia actually just changed the name...

AMD have changed the insides....
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That's still remain to be seen. If all AMD does is pass pre-overclocked 5770/5850/5870 by say 25~50MHz and pass it of as new gen card 6000 series card, then in my opinion it's not really much different from the rebranding that Nvidia pulled....

But I guess it AMD do the prices right , I wouldn't complain...still waiting for release to decide between GTX460 and whatever AMD is offering at that range.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
That's still remain to be seen. If all AMD does is pass pre-overclock the 5770/5850/5870 by say 25~50MHz and pass it of as new gen card 6000 series card, then in my opinion it's not really much different from the rebranding that Nvidia pulled....

But I guess it AMD do the prices right , I wouldn't complain...still waiting for release to decide between GTX460 and whatever AMD is offering at that range.
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They are only rebranding Juniper, why does everyone suddenly think they are just going to switch the 5 to a 6 on all the current cards and release it as a new series?
 
Broken Hope said:
Except Nvidia did it how many times? 9800GT, GTS 250 and the mobile GTX 280 were all G92, AMD has a long way to go to be as bad as Nvidia.
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Em...two wrongs don't make a right. You argument is like when ATI card owners complaining about having driver problems with their card(s), and someone comes along as say Nvidia's drivers have problem too...how is that actually helping the situation? :confused:

If I owned a graphic card, I'd expect decent driver support from my side, disregarding how well or bad the other camp's driver support is...since it doesn't concern me.

Besides, the G92 did move from the 65nm to 55nm. By your logic, I guess people should be complaining about AMD's architecture as well, since the current K10 is just tweaked from the K8, which itself is just tweaked from the anicient K6 date back to 2003.
 
How about we wait until there are, you know, facts before getting all excited and comdemning them? There have been lots of rumours recently but nothing that has seemed particularly credible in my laymans opinion. All I see is a load of groundless speculation.
 
Marine-RX179 +1, the 5*** is basically a beefed up 4*** series with DX11 tacked on, and it's more of the same with the 6*** series, nothing special about it at all, at least Nvidia went and designed a new architecture which actually shines with DX11 performance, tessellation anyone.
 
Baboonanza said:
How about we wait until there are, you know, facts before getting all excited and comdemning them? There have been lots of rumours recently but nothing that has seemed particularly credible in my laymans opinion. All I see is a load of groundless speculation.
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I agree, but the thread had to be made...

...if only for the AMD brigade to drag Nvidia in...
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Marine-RX179 +1, the 5*** is basically a beefed up 4*** series with DX11 tacked on, and it's more of the same with the 6*** series, nothing special about it at all, at least Nvidia went and designed a new architecture which actually shines with DX11 performance, tessellation anyone.
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What about it?

Lemme guess, you just watch Heaven benchmark on a loop on your PC all day?
 
By the time tessellation is used heavily in games there will be faster and better cards out anyway.

I never understand people going on about drivers i have had ATI and NVIDIA and there drivers are as bad as each others, i never understand why people get so defensive over cards, you read threads like this which was bound to start the fan boys off and they have to do what it takes to justify there expensive upgrade.
 
Take Dirt 2 as an example, this an AMD DX11 show case title, Nvidia is well faster in it, and it's the only DX11 title currently out that uses a good number of DX11 effects and not just tessellation, so it just goes to show that Nvidia have designed a core that rocks in DX11 and haven't settled on rehashing old tech.
 
As i have said numerous times, call them what you want. But do not bring a card out called a 6870 that is slower than a 5870. That would be just wrong, i do not care what it has under the shroud, it would be sneaky and a underhand sales technique.

I would just like to point out *if*
 
RavenXXX2 said:
so it just goes to show that Nvidia have designed a core that rocks in DX11 and haven't settled on rehashing old tech.
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Which might help them in a generation or two, but what good has it done them right now? They were 6 months late and allowed AMD to take 90% of the DX11 market. Not to mention AMD's rehashed old tech is still close enough in performance to Nvidias new tech for it to not really matter.
 
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