AMD x470, B450 motherboard on zen2

Marsman · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:30

Paulswen posted something about contacting a competitor to OcUK and they said 26th November. I don't know if he was referring to the Tomahawk Max though. I assume so, given the thread title. Unless they completely got the month wrong, and meant July not November.

MegaPinches · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:36

Marsman said:
Paulswen posted something about contacting a competitor to OcUK and they said 26th November. I don't know if he was referring to the Tomahawk Max though. I assume so, given the thread title. Unless they completely got the month wrong, and meant July not November.

LOL i think he wrote "26th However......." not 26th November......

Marsman · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:40

Haha. So he did.

I don't care about looking foolish, as long I don't have to wait until November.

MegaPinches · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:44

Marsman said:
Haha. So he did.

I don't care about looking foolish, as long I don't have to wait until November.

paulswen · 18 Jul 2019 at 23:34

just found one in Australia, delivery 14.08.19, i dont think so that anyone gonna buy from there

so here is the link: https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Motherboards/AMD-Socket-AM4/77955-B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX
Max model have black heatsinks and usb 3.2

an0nym0us · 19 Jul 2019 at 00:28

Matmulder said:
That's the one. I've been keeping an eye that subreddit, but the various threads about people having non-booting systems, have having to disconnect reset switches due to inconsistent booting just puts me off amongst other issues. I'd rather pay £70 more and not have that hassle.

Once I've decided on a mainboard I've still got the decision on what RAM to go for, I'm trying not to complicate further

Thanks. The disconnecting reset button is a really strange workaround. Amazing if that truly does work.

MegaPinches · 19 Jul 2019 at 10:02

paulswen said:
just found one in Australia, delivery 14.08.19, i dont think so that anyone gonna buy from there so here is the link: https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Motherboards/AMD-Socket-AM4/77955-B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX
Max model have black heatsinks and usb 3.2

USB is the same as the normal model, just all this usb renaming nonsense so its updated on those specs.

an0nym0us · 19 Jul 2019 at 11:53

MegaPinches said:
USB is the same as the normal model, just all this usb renaming nonsense so its updated on those specs.

The USB 3.2, 3.1, 3.0 naming convention really is abysmal.

Darren_uk · 19 Jul 2019 at 12:00

I See MSI Have 4 B450 motherboards with the wording MAX on the end with 3000 Series support & updated heatsink,
$189/£150 bit steep, But its good you get 3000 series support out of the box

all 4 boards comparison Link

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-MAX/Specification

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO-MAX/Specification

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Specification

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-PRO-VDH-MAX/Specification

I Paid £130 for my Asus Prime X470 Pro when first Rel
with ALC 1220 & Purity sound 3 audio & Intel LAN , 6 + 4 true phase

Asus Prime X470-Pro AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
MB-6C0-AS
Order date:
19 Apr 2018 16:42:00
Delivery method:
DPD Next Day (Mon-Fri)
Delivery costs £0.00
Total order value
£129.95

MegaPinches · 19 Jul 2019 at 12:14

an0nym0us said:
The USB 3.2, 3.1, 3.0 naming convention really is abysmal.

Yea completely absurd

MegaPinches · 19 Jul 2019 at 12:15

Darren_uk said:
I See MSI Have 4 B450 motherboards with the wording MAX on the end with 3000 Series support & updated heatsink, Holy they want a lot for them. £79 Mark about right,
$189/£150 Way too much

Its AUS dollar not US

about 105 quid

Darren_uk · 19 Jul 2019 at 12:24

Ah ,yep
Good prices then

Alan1969 · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:08

Darren_uk said:
If you want a ITX motherboard then go for the ASUS ROG STRIX B450-I GAMING £158.99, Same board as x470-i just a different number & cheaper.
Comes with CPU fan header & also 2 x Case fan headers, True 6 + 2 Phase also,
You will need to update the bios to support 3000 series
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-I-GAMING/ don't think the bios is out yet

The Asus X570 ITX version of this board will be almost same with 6 + 2, but maybe cost over £220
Being ITX They not really done anything Special with the board & PCI-E 4.0 will not matter or super phase & VRM Due to the Size.

Or also good boards
Gigabyte B450-I AORUS PRO WIFI (Socket AM4) Mini-ITX Motherboard £115 Bios is out F40
Asrock B450 Gaming-ITX/AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 Mini-ITX Motherboard £119 Bios is out P330

I Have the ASUS ROG STRIX B450-I GAMING & the Asrock B450 ITX & Asus Prime x470 full ATX

shortly I will be building a new office HTPC for my wife on a thin Silverstone case. It the mini-itx mobo needs to house a 3600, a sata 2.5" ssd, and probably a 1 or 2 TB corsair force nvme, and a radeon fury!

I don't need a fancy mobo. I was thinking along the lines of £115 for something like the B450's below

Gigabyte B450-I AORUS PRO WIFI (Socket AM4) Mini-ITX Motherboard £115
Asrock B450 Gaming-ITX/AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 Mini-ITX Motherboard £119

does anyone have any preference between these two boards or anything similar

Darren_uk · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:15

Asrock B450 Gaming-ITX/AC" I own with the Ryzen 1700 , great board with no trouble at all
so you will have no trouble with a 3600

Bios update will be needed as you know for 3000 series

Alan1969 · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:18

Darren_uk said:
Asrock B450 Gaming-ITX/AC" I own with the Ryzen 1700 , great board with no trouble at all
so you will have no trouble with a 3600

Bios update will be needed as you know for 3000 series

can I get OcUK to update the bios before they send to me?

Darren_uk · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:26

Some say they don't, its not a service they do & some say they do, best to phone or ask a OCUK member on here like @ChugNorris or @Gibbo

Alan1969 · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:52

Darren_uk said:
Some say they don't, its not a service they do & some say they do, best to phone or ask a OCUK member on here like @ChugNorris or @Gibbo

on another thread it was confirmed that they don't. However another supplier may do. I will ask the sales guys when I come to order in 4 weeks.

maj · 20 Jul 2019 at 12:18

Built my 3600 and B450 build last night. Flashed bios using flash button and it worked first time. Really happy it works and massive improvement over my i5 Sandybridge.

Alan1969 · 20 Jul 2019 at 14:02

maj said:
Built my 3600 and B450 build last night. Flashed bios using flash button and it worked first time. Really happy it works and massive improvement over my i5 Sandybridge.

which B450 mobo?

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 14:25

I'm currently looking at purchasing a 3700X/3800X CPU but have no idea what motherboard to buy. Ideally I would get a 3900X but feel its too overkill for my needs. Not saying I won't upgrade to a 12C chip in the future though.

As for my motherboard needs/wants, What were regarded as the best X470/B450 motherboards?

My needs are fairly simple:

I've got a vega 56 pulse GPU for now, 1 NVME M.2 Drive, 1 x MX500 SSD, 32GB RAM.

-The best VRM's along with stability and decent Bios
-I don't need RGB but doesn't bother me if it comes with it.
-I don't require Wifi as I'm hard wired now.
-The ability to update Bios via USB would be beneficial but not necessary.

I think that's it.
I don't really have a budget in mind, I initially thought along the lines of ~£250 for a motherboard. What do you all recommend?

Side note: I keep my systems for several years, My current one is around 8 years old.