AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Wucked]

E=mc^2

I'm smarter than all of you

Damn! I don’t know what you just said there, but I’m suddenly in awe of your intellect. That thing, it..it’s got a number in it and everything!

 

[Journey]

Damn! I don’t know what you just said there, but I’m suddenly in awe of your intellect. That thing, it..it’s got a number in it and everything!

He can't be that intelligent, can't even figure out how to get the itty bitty number two like this, E=mc².

In Zen2 news, it seems that the B550 boards are not going to be out until September, which is a shame.

 

[Murphy]

You can be in disagreement with him, pick out what you think are flaws, none of that interests me, this his job, he is the proverbial expert, i trust his judgment for more than i do some random forum poster.

With that i'm done with this, rage against it all you like you're not going to convince me you're more right than he is.

i'm going for some dinner.

You're not getting this are you, I'm not disagreeing with him I'm disagreeing with the person in that YouTube video you posted, i mean i even quoted where Dr Frog and AMD tell you that the guy in the video is wrong to say "Zen: 10 Integer Execution units", is it that you only get your information from YouTube videos or something as it seems your reading skills are severely lacking, not only have you managed to not take in what I've been telling you but you've also ignored the very guy who you're calling an expert and AMD themselves.

And FYI I'm not raging against it, whatever it is, I'm just rather shocked than someone would be so gullible and I'm setting the record straight.

 

[HeX]

ASUS confirms support for AMD Zen2 on 300 and 400 series boards:

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV

ASUS will release BIOS updates for its 300 and 400 series motherboards to add support for next-generation AMD Ryzen CPUs. The latest BIOS update for each motherboard model can be downloaded from the official ASUS website as it becomes available.

The motherboard models scheduled to receive updates are listed below along with their corresponding BIOS versions. Additional motherboard models will be added to the list soon.

 

[SupraWez]

ASUS confirms support for AMD Zen2 on 300 and 400 series boards:

Good

 

[humbug]

ASUS confirms support for AMD Zen2 on 300 and 400 series boards:

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV

That's good of them, not at all like Asus, usually they like you to buy a new board the day after your old one is out of warranty.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

ASUS confirms support for AMD Zen2 on 300 and 400 series boards:

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV

A CPU drop in is tempting me, hopefully the performance gain can justify me stripping my loop to install it.

 

[DragonQ]

ASUS confirms support for AMD Zen2 on 300 and 400 series boards:

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV

My server board is listed, which is nice. Can't see myself upgrading my undervolted R7 1700 though, since it's pretty overkill as it is. Nice to have expansion options in the future though.

 

[beany_bot]

That's good of them, not at all like Asus, usually they like you to buy a new board the day after your old one is out of warranty.

I suspect they will be contracted by AMD from back when the first Ryzen released.

 

[humbug]

I suspect they will be contracted by AMD from back when the first Ryzen released.

Yeah could be.

 

[doodah]

When are we expecting some actual news/showings again? I swear this thread has gone on for near eternity and we seem no closer

Edit - a month's time. Thanks @beany_bot. I just want me some Ryzen 3000 as this could be last upgrade for my main rig.

 

[beany_bot]

When are we expecting some actual news/showings again? I swear this thread has gone on for near eternity and we seem no closer

computex

 

[humbug]

Which is in 4 weeks time.

 

[chrcoluk]

what dose V core have to do with TDP?

Everything

higher vcore = higher TDP.

Voltage at 3.6 ghz (or 3.7 on a 2700x) is under 1.2v which is how it hits its targets.

Once you go into XFR clock frequencies it sky rockets, at 4.35 even for just one core, vcore goes to 1.45-1.5.

 

[beany_bot]

Which is in 4 weeks time.

 

[humbug]

lol

 

[4K8KW10]

Everything

higher vcore = higher TDP.

This is not true, you conveniently miss the third variable - the current. Higher vcore doesn't necessarily mean higher TDP, hence the guy is right with his question.

 

[Participant]

Get ready for the disappointment people. These things are never nirvana.

Pick two of:

- Priced higher than we though
- Fewer IPC than we thought
- Hotter and sweatier than we thought
- Fewer cores / threads than we thought

 

[DragonQ]

Eh, depends on your expectations. If you're expecting a 16 core 5.0 GHz part with 15% higher IPC at 95 W at £300 I think you're going to have a bad time, mmkay?

 

[humbug]

Get ready for the disappointment people. These things are never nirvana.

Pick two of:

- Priced higher than we though
- Fewer IPC than we thought
- Hotter and sweatier than we thought
- Fewer cores / threads than we thought

- Priced higher than we though

The thinking seems to be all the tiers will have more cores than Ryzen 2000 but also go up in price, just not by a lot because Intel are still there as competition, certainly you're not suggesting that the top Ryzen 3000 will be more expensive than the 9900K?

- Fewer IPC than we thought

You maybe right, and yet given that the 8 core Ryzen 3000 was marginally faster than a 9900K in the Cinebench demo you're going to have to chose between higher IPC vs Ryzen 2000 or higher clock speeds than the 4.7Ghz of the 9900K, which is it?

- Hotter and sweatier than we thought

I can't see it being any Hotter and sweatier than a 9900K at MCE full chat. can you?

- Fewer cores / threads than we thought

We know the package is setup for two 8 core chiplets, Lisa Lue confirmed this herself, now it may be a 12 core to start with saving the 16 core for later on, you maybe right to say they may never actually make a 16 core chip but i think that would be a waste.