AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Zeed]

We've got to stop pretending that AMD have some ace up their sleeve lkl

Going by design if Max boost on 3900x is 4.6 thats SINGLE CORE max boost not all core same as in previous ryzen cpus. I'm unable to get stable max single core boost of my binned 2700x. I assume those will max out at 12x4.5 with My cooling Deffo ordering more liquid metal with those cpus

 

[~>Dg<~]

the sad thing is the terrible pricing will make many not upgrade because anyone on older i7s or the like has to go in to get a proper upgrade. 5820s for eg. been available for 4-5 years and only the entry 6 cores just matching and costing £200 now is a joke. 5820s at one point were 220. what bargin chips. especially if you have a good clocker.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

4.6Ghz + say 10% IPC(worst case) would be the same as a 5.06Ghz 2700X so it's really not that bad, the prices however are more than I think everyone wanted them to be.

 

[Martini1991]

I think just like the 2700 vs 2700X the 3700X and 3800X are the same CPU, the 3800X has a higher all CPU XFR boost hence the 40 Watt Higher TDP, but the 3700X can be clocked the same.

2700 65 Watts, 2700X 105 Watts, they are the same CPU.

If the latter is true then I'll agree with you.

All depends on how everything clocks though in the end.

 

[Yaayuh!]

I think just like the 2700 vs 2700X the 3700X and 3800X are the same CPU, the 3800X has a higher all CPU XFR boost hence the 40 Watt Higher TDP, but the 3700X can be clocked the same.

2700 65 Watts, 2700X 105 Watts, they are the same CPU.

One will be better (binned) than the other, reviews should hopefully show this. If it's like 1700X vs 1800X, i'll be paying the extra for the 3800X.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Ryzen 7 models are single chiplet:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1440...-cores-for-499-up-to-46-ghz-pcie-40-coming-77

 

[humbug]

If the latter is true then I'll agree with you.

All depends on how everything clocks though in the end.

2700 vs 2700X? it is, look it up

During Gaming the 2700X boost all core to about 4.0 to 4.1Ghz, the 2700 is only about 3.7Ghz, this is XFR, its where the TDP difference comes from.

My 1600 all core boosts to 3.4Ghz, with a 3.2Ghz base clock, 3.6Ghz single core, 65 Watts.

 

[roysters]

I was looking to upgrade my 16 core 7940x. Tempted but the 3900x but at 14 core doubt will will better the 7940x.

If they have a 16 core version coming out I might sell up and get that.

 

[Doobedoo]

Looking forward to the reviews but I think I’ll let others pay the early adopter tax.

Should be quite an improvement over my old and tired 4670k.

 

[kitfit1]

Has anyone seen anything more about this supposed secret sauce hardware Asus are implementing into their mobos? Allegedly improves RAM overclocking considerably.

I have a theory
Both the CH6 and CH7 have a pre set section in the bios for different ram speeds for B-Die. This was developed between Asus and "the stilt". "The stilt" has a close relationship with "1usmus" (he developed the Ryzen Dram Calculator).
I think it is very likely the stilt and 1usmus have got together to develop a section in the bios of the CH8 that automatically reads the ram and sets the fastest or safest timings and subtimings to suit whatever ram is installed. Fastest or safest depending on user choice, much like Ryzen Dram Calculator.
I could be way off the mark here, but i don't think so

 

[Yaayuh!]

1usmus's DRAM Calc good now? It was a pile of **** in it's early stages on OC.Net but i see he's worked on it a lot since then.
I'd already found the limitations of my chips and RAM, early Ryzen days were fun. Here's hoping there's enough changes to keep it interesting.

 

[TrixX]

I was looking to upgrade my 16 core 7940x. Tempted but the 3900x but at 14 core doubt will will better the 7940x.

If they have a 16 core version coming out I might sell up and get that.

The 12c 3900X would beat the 7940X, though not sure whether it would be by enough for you to consider changing just yet. IMO I'd wait for the 16c model and information on the Threadrippers.

 

[Zeed]

I have a theory
Both the CH6 and CH7 have a pre set section in the bios for different ram speeds for B-Die. This was developed between Asus and "the stilt". "The stilt" has a close relationship with "1usmus" (he developed the Ryzen Dram Calculator).
I think it is very likely the stilt and 1usmus have got together to develop a section in the bios of the CH8 that automatically reads the ram and sets the fastest or safest timings and subtimings to suit whatever ram is installed. Fastest or safest depending on user choice, much like Ryzen Dram Calculator.
I could be way off the mark here, but i don't think so

I think so

 

[Sargatanas2511]

Is it possible they are having yield issues with the chiplets and that's why there are no dual 8 core chiplet cpus?

 

[beany_bot]

Gigabyte boards. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10#kf

 

[Phate]

Gigabyte is looking the sexiest to me right now

 

[TrixX]

We've got to stop pretending that AMD have some ace up their sleeve lkl

What like a 16c part they haven't released information of yet...

 

[Legend]

When will reviews drop on these? Presumably no one even has them yet.

 

[kitfit1]

I think so

You think i'm way off the mark, or on the money Zeed ?

 

[ljt]

When will reviews drop on these? Presumably no one even has them yet.

I've asked the same question, no replies. I'm guessing the release date will be when they lift the review embargo (7th july)