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Zeed said:
Well on NAVI you can play at 1fps for same price your point ??
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While I understand your point, are you really going to use a DEMO as a reason to buy a graphics card? Ray Tracing will not be around properly until at least the next gen Nvidia and AMD cards, so I see no problem with waiting a gen for it.
 
Navi should have been a polaris replacement, AMD are trying to do a nvidia and and sell mid range cards at high margins, Nvidia might get away with it but AMD has no chance.
 
Your getting 10% more performance for 10% less $$$.. (Navi)
Ok i would have preferred a little less cost but the whole market seems to have jumped up a lot, thank your blue and green teams for that.

Navi has much better software, and i speak from a 1080ti which is like a quantum leap back in drivers and software over my old Vega.
Of course overclocking is... .still up in the air.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
While I understand your point, are you really going to use a DEMO as a reason to buy a graphics card? Ray Tracing will not be around properly until at least the next gen Nvidia and AMD cards, so I see no problem with waiting a gen for it.
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Well quickly googled 2070 was priced 450 same as this 570xt. Both 8gb ddr one does RT other does not. How that card is a good deal when You get less for same at this very second :D

Navi is what i expected... MEH but that 3900x for 500 bucks im up for this :D
 
suppose the one they should have focused on since its not that different to vega is if they have solved the overall power consumption.
 
Question for me is, will a 3700x vs a 1600 significantly speed up cities skylines so it isn't running at 12fps,and can I just drop them into a b450 mobo
 
Zeed said:
Well quickly googled 2070 was priced 450 same as this 570xt. Both 8gb ddr one does RT other does not. How that card is a good deal when You get less for same at this very second :D
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The 5700XT is about 10% faster from what is shown at the same price, but because it can't do RT(which the 2070 isn't good at) it's not good?
 
Interesting observation on the 3600 vs 9600K CS:GO benchmarks...
At 1080p the 3600 was comfortably ahead, yet at 1440p in the demo the 9600K had the higher framerates, even if only marginally.
What could cause a CPU that wins at 1080p to not win at 1440p...? I don't think either are hitting a GPU bottleneck there.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
The 5700XT is about 10% faster from what is shown at the same price, but because it can't do RT(which the 2070 isn't good at) it's not good?
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all depends on overclocking. Want to see overclocked vs overclocked hehe And cooler is **** on that card for 450....
 
Zeed said:
all depends on overclocking. Want to see overclocked vs overclocked hehe And cooler is **** on that card for 450....
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But you just talked about how it was the same minus ray tracing. It isn't from what is shown, and Turing cards boost automatically for 90% of users who don't manually overclock it so I don't really get why that's a factor.

Can't argue about the cooler though, blowers are very 2013.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
But you just talked about how it was the same minus ray tracing. It isn't from what is shown, and Turing cards boost automatically for 90% of users who don't manually overclock it so I don't really get why that's a factor.
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well for me I'd rather have raytracing... biut in reality eeemmm both 2070 and 570xt are garbage for me. Got water cooled pascal titan so eeee no upgrade either for me :p gotta wait for NVs 7nm samsung gpus. Need bit more juice cant hold stable 60@4k on ultra heh.
 
Zeed said:
well for me I'd rather have raytracing... biut in reality eeemmm both 2070 and 570xt are garbage for me. Got water cooled pascal titan so eeee no upgrade either for me :p gotta wait for NVs 7nm samsung gpus.
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I would personally rather have ~10% more performance than a feature the card is barely capable of running anyway to be honest.
 
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