AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Darujhistan]

The CPU's look great, the GPU's not so much, that said, the 5700XT looks like the perfect 1440p card and that's all I care about. Should be a bit cheaper and a bit faster than the 2070, and if they pull off both of those then AMD have delivered what I wanted.

So it'll be AMD all the way from me.

 

[LePhuronn]

When i said Zen2+ I meant basically the successor to Zen2 whatever it was going to be called. The 4000 series essentially.

Because AMD have faced no competition for even the chips they've released right now, I think they have held back the more powerful leaked ones (with higher ghz) are probably now saving them for the 4000 series.

Ah OK. It's Zen 3, which is an important distinction given there was a Zen+. But as to "higher GHz" models, they may not necessarily be as you envision them.

Zen 3 chiplets could push the clocks up as part of the new architecture, or we could see Zen 2 "Black Editions" where AMD take the best binned chiplets and throw TDP out of the window. But I don't think AMD are explicitly sandbagging and holding back higher-clocked Zen 2 parts for release as 4000 series next year; we'll either see 5GHz Zen 2 Black Editions in or before Q1 2020 or 5GHz Zen 3 this time next year.

 

[Zeed]

Anyone think the 8, 12 and 16 core will overclock the same and therefore offer the same gaming perf?

Me i bet they overclock -+100mhz depending on silicone lottery win or loose. Like some 1600 and 1700 overclocked better than some 1800x

 

[GAC]

Anyone think the 8, 12 and 16 core will overclock the same and therefore offer the same gaming perf?

wouldnt surprise me if they all clock around the same give or take 50mhz, the big one will be keeping the 12 and 16 core parts cool. but maybe 4.7ghz across all cores is doable on a 280mm rad all in one liquid cooler.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

I think you are right. They are probably holding back the 16 core part for a few months, or even for a refresh (4000 series).

Only speculation but this is what I feel.

4000 series might be the one where we see the Ryzen 7 exclusively become the 12 core, and the Ryzen 9 exclusively be the 16 core, and the chips both hit 5ghz (as the leak suggested).

Either that or its still part of the 3000 series, thats just getting released at a later time

 

[HeX]

 

[Deleted member 209350]

wouldnt surprise me if they all clock around the same give or take 50mhz, the big one will be keeping the 12 and 16 core parts cool. but maybe 4.7ghz across all cores is doable on a 280mm rad all in one liquid cooler.

All core clock to 4.7 seems doable seeing as the 2000 series boosts only went upto 3.9 for some chips, yet all core OC went upto 4.2

 

[LePhuronn]

The first sign that the Wintel dominance is coming to an end?

 

[ChrisD.]

Not sure it's going to be worth me upgrading my 8086K, will have to see what the new upcoming games are like CPU wise. That said, 16 core would be lovely to have and should last a while.

 

[Murphy]

Anyone think AMD will extend precision boost overdrive beyond Threadripper?

It would be nice if we could increase the power and thermal limits to achieve higher boost clocks on consumer CPUs.

 

[Nutella33]

Anyone think AMD will extend precision boost overdrive beyond Threadripper?

It would be nice if we could increase the power and thermal limits to achieve higher boost clocks on consumer CPUs.

PBO is on the mainstream CPU's? The 3800 looks like it might hit 4.9/5ghz with PBO apparently.

 

[Murphy]

Is it, i thought it was exclusive to TR2 currently.

Or are you asking if it's been confirmed to be coming to Zen2, if it's that I've not read that it is, maybe i missed it.

 

[brightside229]

I am very tempted by the ryzen 9 3900 if its going to be around the 450 mark. Simply because i last upgraded in 2012, and i think if its another 7-8 years before i next upgrade, which it most likely will be the 12core 24 threads and extra cache should still be holding up fairly well compared with the ryzen 7 3800 with 8 cores?

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

At least we'll get reviews on the day they go on sale, we can see how it performs with 2080 Ti then for anyone curious.

If everything still looks pretty much the same as AMD showed i might go for the 12 core, why wouldn't you considering the price difference over the 3800x.

 

[HeX]

Anyone think AMD will extend precision boost overdrive beyond Threadripper?

It would be nice if we could increase the power and thermal limits to achieve higher boost clocks on consumer CPUs.

PBO has been around since Zen+ on mainstream. My 2700X has it enabled right now on an X370 Taichi. Advanced --> AMD CBS --> NBIO Common.

 

[Aretak]

All of the performance testing you’re seeing today, AMD officials tell us, are done without the updated Windows scheduler in place. AMD also tells us it didn’t install the latest security mitigation for Intel’s chips either.

So while MCE Auto would likely give the Intel chip more performance, the Ryzen 3000 probably would also see a bump in some games from the latest Windows 10 scheduler.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/340...aiming-to-topple-intels-gaming-dominance.html

Be interesting to see the performance with these fixes and Intel's latest gimping in place.

 

[andy_mk3]

Wow. It looks like I switched off and went to sleep literally minutes before 16c was announced, ffs

All looks mega exciting on the cpu front though!

 

[strocky]

Are the new CPU's worth the extra over ZEN 1 or are you just gaining a few FPS when gaming?

 

[RavenXXX2]

If not interested in max gaming performance then zen 1 still holds up good today.

 

[ubiquity]

Anyone think AMD will extend precision boost overdrive beyond Threadripper?

Confirmed for 3000 series...