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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Jamin280672, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. opethdisciple

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    Thing is I made I made a mistake when the 1700/1700x and 1800x launched. The product I should of bought was the 1700x not the cheaper 1700. Everyone said you can overclock it to 4Ghz and have identical performance. Well I ended up with a 1700 that was a rubbish overclocker. It couldn't even do 3.8Ghz at 1.35v and I never managed to get my ram stable at DOCP. I then ended up selling it and buying a 2700x to solve the frequency issue and ram issue. I also bought a new pair of ram sticks (Samsung B-die) just to make sure. Up until last week I still was not able to get stable at DOCP and had to drop to 3133MHz for stability. A new BIOS was released last week and thus far everything seems OK at DOCP. But it always goes like this and eventually freezes. Time will tell.

    All I'm saying, is that if it was ME I would buy the 3800x.
     
  2. Potatowithearsontheside

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    Just like all of Intel's attempts at providing us with a new and improved product.
    Difference being that AMD actually got a product out of the door that is almost the equivalent at gaming, but absolutely is a giant leap forward in all other tasks.
     
  3. RavenXXX2

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    3900x will sell by the truck load, amazing bit if engineering.
     
  4. Harbz

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    Can’t find any details on how loud the stock 3700x fan is. Any reviews mention it?
     
  5. FrankJH

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    I agree partially- but these aren't consumer parts really.

    they are High End Desktop parts, consumers will be going for the 3's and possibly 5 models (most likely in pre-built systems).

    I wouldn't be surprised if the 3800x was just a binned 3700x at all
     
  6. Robert896r1

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    Be interested to see if 3800x are basically binned 3700x similar to 8086k vs 8700k
     
  7. robfosters

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    Can see me using it for 6+ years, like my 2500k
     
  8. spoffle

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    It's matching in IPC, it has lower clocks, consumes less power, has more cores and is quite a bit cheaper per core.

    I really don't see what there is to complain about.
     
  9. RavenXXX2

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    Why, the 3700x is shown to be equivalent in gaming to the faster clocked 3900, they all top out at 4.3ghz.
     
  10. opethdisciple

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    Thats what I expect they are a 1700/1700x situation.
     
  11. Jacky60

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    Some of the 3700X 4K numbers are around 45-70fps with a single 2080ti. If you want a CPU that can carry you through 2 or 3 successive GPU upgrades then you want something that can feed the equivalent to 2080ti SLI. No idea if it can but being behind now doesn't auger well for the future.
     
  12. opethdisciple

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    Advertised as 100Mhz more on the boost clock.
     
  13. N19h7m4r3

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    AMD knocking it out of the Park for Content creation.

     
  14. Vish Petrol

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    Thank you for your annual contribution :D
     
  15. opethdisciple

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    Is anyone considering upgrading from a 2700x to a 3700x/3800x?

    Purely for gaming.
     
  16. nitram100

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    Mainly because I game at 1080p 240hz. Are there any huge differences between a z390 board and a b450?
     
  17. RavenXXX2

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    Yeah we can see that went with the 3900 v 3700. lucky to get anywhere near the stated max boost.
     
  18. N19h7m4r3

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    Same thing was said for 1600 vs 7600K two years ago. Games changed, their engines changed, and Ryzen was utilised more.

    Linus noticed that in BattleField, you can get better performance prioritising cores again, which means there's still untapped performance with how games, and scheduler distributes load in some applications.
     
  19. jigger

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    Gaming performance is within the margin of error.
     
  20. LoadsaMoney

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    Sounds about right :D