american lies

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propaganda sandwich anyone :)

end of day unless you witness it with own eyes its all spin its that simples. thats how you break it down to simple form.
 
propaganda sandwich anyone :)

end of day unless you witness it with own eyes its all spin its that simples. thats how you break it down to simple form.

So we shouldn't investigate the claims, because we never saw it and as such it may have never happened so what's the point? You're obviously not saying that... are you?
 
propaganda sandwich anyone :)

end of day unless you witness it with own eyes its all spin its that simples. thats how you break it down to simple form.

Why would it be propaganda?

There have been rapes and murders, not sure if any were UK however.

Were the reports on those all spin?

Strange line of argument you are taking there.

What if the whole of the rest of his squad saw it and reported it? We read the report?

Is it all just 'spin'?

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and where exactly have you seen or heard this? give me an example of the two you have mentioned

All those rather messy conflicts in africa, the odd story pops up now and again but no one wants to listen so it goes away.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7465101.stm




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...ival-burned-alive-having-feet-hacked-off.html


http://www.voanews.com/english/news...ortured-Opposition-Politicians-101304714.html

Did labour have any tory mp's arrested and tortured during the last election?
 
didnt want to go to deep on this as it is late but who here has the knowledge needed to report accurately ?

no one.

all you will do is search the web for news headlines or other articles to back your search. its all used to guide you to your opinions.

so unless you actually know about it your just regurgitating peoples work who could be well payed to write nonsense. you dont know the truth nor do i. it is simple we are but guided lambs
 
how on earth can america and the uk go on about human rights to countrys such as iran when they are the biggest human rights abuserss in the world?

i am obviously talking about the wikileaks document that was published today.

america and uk invade another country, force regime change on it, murder their people, imprison thousands upon thousands of iraqi people into secret prisons and dungeons, steal the country's resources and they talk about how iran is a threat to world peace.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-soldier-killed-Iraqi-girl-8-played.html


just a few ideas of what american and british soilders have done

:mad: i am absolutely digusted and angry.


I almost laughed when I read that. When America or the UK start forcibly aborting the babies of woman who are eight month's pregnant (China), chopping the hands off of thieves who steel from sweet shops and who have no previous criminal record* (Iran) or sending dissidents and three generations of their family to gulags for buying food during a famine (North Korea). Then maybe I won't laugh.

*After re-reading the article I based the highlighted statement on, I realise that it doesn't mention the thief's criminal history.
 
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didnt want to go to deep on this as it is late but who here has the knowledge needed to report accurately ?

no one.

all you will do is search the web for news headlines or other articles to back your search. its all used to guide you to your opinions.

so unless you actually know about it your just regurgitating peoples work who could be well payed to write nonsense. you dont know the truth nor do i. it is simple we are but guided lambs

"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"

:D
 
didnt want to go to deep on this as it is late but who here has the knowledge needed to report accurately ?

no one.

all you will do is search the web for news headlines or other articles to back your search. its all used to guide you to your opinions.

so unless you actually know about it your just regurgitating peoples work who could be well payed to write nonsense. you dont know the truth nor do i. it is simple we are but guided lambs

That's the same with anything, especially in law. Lawyer's do not know what happened but they present arguments and rely on their own judgement to determine what happened. They then present this to a jury, or judges, or whatever scenario we're in, and they determine the fate of the investigation. According to you, we shouldn't bother with any sort of trial/tribunal/investigation. If something happens, it happens. There's no point in trying to find blame because it's futile as we'll never be able to do such.
I'm debating the need of a full open investigation by a legal entity permitted to do such but according to your logic that's a pointless exercise because they won't know the exact knowledge of what happened...
Do you realize how stupid following your logic is?
 
ok and by this logic some spouts i hate uk and usa for what someone has written ? whether it be truth or not.

all im saying is unless we know nothing is black and white leave that to the tabloids tomorrow.

i do agree on things being looked into on anything but saying something is something without any pure facts is just presumption.


also i doubt the lawyer has just spammed it into google and read something and replied back .
 
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Do you think armed conflict is in any way civilised? Clue: It isn't
No I don't. However the premise for war was to make peoples lives better not worse or the same.

If you want to claim the moral high ground, expect to have your credentials examined and questioned on a regular basis. That's exactly what's happened in this instance and not for the first time the allegations hold some water. If the yanks (or brits) don't like it they should maybe learn to live by what they preach.
 
is whipping someone with metal chains armed conflict 2 u?

and you say pwning foreigners as if it is a joke. we are talking about peoples lives and countrys here. you should be ashamed of yourself :mad:

You cant come into a debate like that, all worked up, "oohhh the suffering". I dont think theres any place for that. As a general rule you are prone to propaganda and manipulation above the average person.
 
I almost laughed when I read that. When America or the UK start forcibly aborting the babies of woman who are eight month's pregnant (China), chopping the hands off of thieves who steel from sweet shops and who have no previous criminal record (Iran) or sending dissidents and three generations of their family to gulags for buying food during a famine (North Korea). Then maybe I won't laugh.

+1
 
I thought the army men ride in on unicorns waving candy canes that shoot rainbows? What's this about tanks and people dying and stuff??
 
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