And the muppet of the week award goes to....

rossk26 said:
Yes it does, it makes the car illegal to be driving on British roads... Therefore unroadworthy
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No it doesn't. An MOT certificate is not proof of condition of vehicle at time of use only at time of test.
A car could leave an MOT station, hit a pothole and be unroadworthy despite a 5 minute old MOT - which is why just about every motor insurance policy states that the vehicle must be in roadworthy condition at time of use and does not say that it must have an MOT.

I have only seen 2 or 3 cases in nearly 20 years where the insurance stated that the vehicle must have an MOT. In those cases the driver was driving without insurance due to an expired MOT.
 
rossk26 said:
Yes it does, it makes the car illegal to be driving on British roads... Therefore unroadworthy
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Wrong, you are even permitted to drive without an MOT when driving to or from a test station or to place for remedial work but you could still be prosecuted if the car was in the dangerous state to drive.
 
Dogbreath said:
Wrong, you are even permitted to drive without an MOT when driving to or from a test station or to place for remedial work but you could still be prosecuted if the car was in the dangerous state to drive.
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But this does not allow you to drive a car without MOT from car dealership to home. It is an offence and a £60 fine (unless price has gone up :rolleyes:). Driving a car without insurance is unroadworthy, driving a car without tax is unroadworthy and driving a car without an MOT is unroadworthy...

This is all regardless of the state of the car! The car could be in pristine condition, but is not worthy of road because of the above!
 
Tesla said:
The latest MOT certificate is printer on to plain A4 paper.
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I know, its was a joke, hence the sarcastic environment bit :P

My guess would be they print bilingual ones in England too (I didn't know they did this before today) because the car may end up being sold to somebody in Wales.
 
rossk26 said:
But this does not allow you to drive a car without MOT from car dealership to home. It is an offence and a £60 fine (unless price has gone up :rolleyes:). Driving a car without insurance is unroadworthy, driving a car without tax is unroadworthy and driving a car without an MOT is unroadworthy...

This is all regardless of the state of the car! The car could be in pristine condition, but is not worthy of road because of the above!
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what on earth are you prattling on about, none of the above automatically make the car unroadworthy, no insurance means you legally can't drive on the road but bears no reflection on the state of the car, probably why you are legally allowed to drive to an MOT test without tax or an MOT.
 
It is not the fact the car does not have an MOT that makes it unroadworthy, it is unroadworthy if it fails the MOT on wednesday on anything that was faulty when I bought the car. Ig it passes the MOT on wednesday, then I will be fine with the situation.

If it fails, then I am justified in asking the trader to put it right imho, and it would appear that the law is on my side.

And yes, I spent more time checking the car for rust and problems than checking for an MOT.
 
Will Gill said:
what on earth are you prattling on about, none of the above automatically make the car unroadworthy, no insurance means you legally can't drive on the road but bears no reflection on the state of the car, probably why you are legally allowed to drive to an MOT test without tax or an MOT.
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But it's not legal to drive from a car dealership to home without a valid MOT...

So therefore I'm not prattling about anything! It's the law, it's black and white
 
dalin80 said:
Welsh on the MOT ticket? all ours have been English only.
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Thats because in England MOT certs are not bilingual. At least none of my new style MOT's have any other languages on them. At a guess the garage must have the option to choose what they print out.

English standard MOT:
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Jez said:
Very nice indeed :) One hell of a "change" from the subaru.
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Indeed, it was quite sad driving to Bristol up the A-roads yesterday, as it never missed a beat, and allowed me to overtake some difficult slow moving traffic without drama.

When I drove back in the CLK, I was happy to just waft back and sit behind anything that got in the way.

It has some nice kit though, full climate, electric seat. blinds, headrests, seats with little air-bags in them to adjust the support (4 point controls next to seat belt anchor). The cup holder is a work of engineering genius :D
 
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