[TW]Fox;21557539 said:
She was going incredibly slow, and even slowed down in the middle of the roundabout. Not really going to wait behind her when there's plenty of room to pass, and within the law I am allowed to do so.
Another accident, thoughts on liability and possibility of write off?
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She was going incredibly slow, and even slowed down in the middle of the roundabout. Not really going to wait behind her when there's plenty of room to pass, and within the law I am allowed to do so.
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She was going incredibly slow, and even slowed down in the middle of the roundabout. Not really going to wait behind her when there's plenty of room to pass, and within the law I am allowed to do so.
So she was already driving in a manner that highlighted her to be a bit of a ditherer, and you felt the correct course of action was to overtake her, on a roundabout?
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Can't see this working too well for you either, the damage will look like you drove into her, despite how you've explained it?
She was going incredibly slow, and even slowed down in the middle of the roundabout. Not really going to wait behind her when there's plenty of room to pass, and within the law I am allowed to do so.
I wouldn't use that story in court ...
She was going incredibly slow, and even slowed down in the middle of the roundabout. Not really going to wait behind her when there's plenty of room to pass, and within the law I am allowed to do so.
There clearly wasn't because she wouldn't have hit you! It's always you Mat
Well if I was behind someone going that slowly on a roundabout, I'd have been very cautious about doing anything, especially trying to pass, whether I was in the right to do so or not.
and within the law I am allowed to do so.
I'm not so sure. It's a single lane roundabout, you may be entitled to pass if it was safe to do so, but I think there's at least reasonable argument to say that it wasn't safe, based on the fact that it resulted in a crash!
Admittedly, a lot depends on how much she 'swerved' and how much you just misjudged the situation. But based on the fact that she didn't technically change lanes, or even leave her lane, then I don't think you have much of a case, unless a 3rd party can show that she swerved considerably at the last minute before leaving the roundabout.
[TW]Fox;21557622 said:
I certainly didn't want to be sat right behind her (in the wrong lane if I had, as I was turning right) so when she started braking, she dropped back. I didn't 'power' past her.
She cut across a road 3 cars wide, I was following the roundabout to the 3rd exit correctly.
The width of the road is irrelevant. It is a single lane on all approaches and exits.
Her road position may not have been ideal, but if you try to pass her on the right, then you are overtaking her, which is not a safe thing to do on a roundabout.
We really can't give a solid answer without knowing exactly when she changed direction and by how much she swerved, but your comments make it sound a bit like you were just impatient and wanted to get passed her.
Does that mean her insurance will pay out for my car?
Caporegime
Yes and yours for hers, but it's swings and roundabouts...
Caporegime
^ Oof
Not sure what guidance is when there are no lane markings. Surely if the road is clearly wide enough for two cars side by side but there are no actual lane markings, then it's on each driver to be aware of vehicles around them. I know people are saying that it's technically a single lane roundabout, but is it really intended to be? It's very wide looking at the aerial shot.
Not sure what guidance is when there are no lane markings. Surely if the road is clearly wide enough for two cars side by side but there are no actual lane markings, then it's on each driver to be aware of vehicles around them. I know people are saying that it's technically a single lane roundabout, but is it really intended to be? It's very wide looking at the aerial shot.
But even if you tried to argue that case, the onus is on the person who is passing to only do so when it is safe to do so. Was it safe, if it results in a crash?
His only defence would be if he could prove that she appeared to be leaving at one exit and then swerved back onto it at the last minute. But in such cases it's his word against hers, unless there are any witnesses. At best I think he could hope for 50/50.
Caporegime
It's possible for a situation to initially appear safe, but for the circumstances to rapidly change. It appeared safe for me to enter the bathroom this morning, but then I discovered that my wife had taken a dump not two minutes prior.
I agree that it will go 50/50 I'm just curious as to when one lane becomes two if there are no markings.
I agree, but unless he can prove she did something she shouldn't have, then he doesn't have a case. As it is technically a single lane roundabout, simply saying that her positioning wasn't optimal, isn't really sufficient. He'd have to show that she swerved unexpectedly.
It doesn't. The width of the road is irrelevant. The roundabout has 1 lane on all approaches and exits, therefore you obey the same rules as any other single lane roundabout.
There 'may' be argument that the additional width allows for it to be safe to pass, but as there was a crash, it's not something he can easily argue.
Update, accident management company are holding her 100% liable but she's just talking gibberish on the phone to them and can't string a sentence together.
She's told them she's not claiming for the damage to her car, however. I take it that's a good thing?
Now pondering my options, if they do write off I'm probably going to get a newer car.
She's told them she's not claiming for the damage to her car, however. I take it that's a good thing?
Now pondering my options, if they do write off I'm probably going to get a newer car.
Caporegime
Why involve an accident management company when youre likely to be at fault? Theyre bound to side with you up until the old ladys insurance company tell you to jog on, at which point youll be left with the bill.