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Soldato
ill take that without feeling like I need to upgrade.
Not a significant jump in tessellation figures, my GTX 480 will do better than that when over-clocked.
And I'm sure the 6970 will do better when overclocked too.
People who defend their 480's make me laugh.
Soldato
I know it will beat it. I'm just saying not significantly enough that I feel bad about it.
I'm not saying the 480 can stand upto it, just its not getting its ass handed to it all things considered.
ofcourse the 6970 will overclock and add another say 5 frames on, but still thats only 5 frames ahead of me, which will not have me depressed that im not at the very forefront at that time.
I'm not an Nvidia Fanboy, I go where the performance is at any given time, granted I've had great experience with Nvidia cards the past couple of outtings but thats purely due to circumstance of when I have bought.
Soldato
^^ yeah my feelings as well, my 480 will be with me until Nvidia bring something significantly faster out.
Soldato
Some people love to see an imaginary divide between guys who have Nvidia and AMD cards.
It's just not there 90% of the time, those that claim Nvidia or AMD Fan-boyism are just missing the point.
People just like to justify that they are Okay with their current hardware enough that they are not going to spiral into Oblivion for not having an extra 10% performance.
I am sure plenty of AMD guys justified not making the Jump to the 480 because they just didn't need to.
Well that's the same case here, the 6970 is not so significant we NEED to get it.
That was my point
(Based on the voodoo witch doctor benchmarks that have been released so far of course)
We will see mate we will see
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Its looking to be over 2x faster then the 5870 in teserlation heavy app's jst think how much faster at normal apps it will be.
Anyway i dont want the 6870... I was the biggest and the best again the 6990.
Anyway i dont want the 6870... I was the biggest and the best again the 6990.
Soldato
That's not how it works... if you applied that thought to the difference between the 480 and the 5870 in Uni engine the 480 would be almost twice as quick in games...
6990 will be very powerful though, and quite pricey, out of my price range and what I can justify spending on a GPU sadly.
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I suppose
Yet i have a 5970 allready i will only need to drop £250 on the new one.
I would only do so though if its 2/3 faster
Looks interesting . . . hopefully this will drive the prices of the HD 6850/HD 6870's down along with the GTX 460/470's! 
There is only so many buyers for these latest cards . . . once you made your purchase your out of the buyers queue . . . unless of course you slap your four week old GPU in members market and buy again!
There is only so many buyers for these latest cards . . . once you made your purchase your out of the buyers queue . . . unless of course you slap your four week old GPU in members market and buy again!
Soldato
You've completely misunderstood his comment.
6990 will be damn fast if it's a 6970 x2 or even 6970 x2.
I think they have done well considering they were expecting to get improvements in speed from a die shrink, but had to change plans. (much like Nvidia will have to).
Soldato
Facepalm...
his comment was that since the 6970 (Single GPU) is twice as fast as the 5870 (single GPU) in UniEngine (The Benchmark shown above), then this should apply to normal apps (games).
Therefore if we apply the same methodology that the GTX480 is almost twice as fast as the 5870 in UniEngine it should be twice as fast in games...
he then said that the 6990 (Dual GPU) will be very fast though and that if he was going to purchase a new card it would be this as he currently has a 5970 (Dual GPU)
He even just agreed with me above your post...
Soldato
What if it 1fps faster in Crysis though?
there no point buying 6970 if u have 480 well , if u get good return of ur 480 if u sell second hand then u can get 6970 , but as it will only be 10 ~15 % improvement its not worth the fuss for 480 users.
if u have 480 the only thing you should be looking forward is 6990 or next gen.
if u have 480 the only thing you should be looking forward is 6990 or next gen.
Without knowing the 6970's core and memory clocks it is hard to estimate the real gains achieved through architectural enhancements, or via simple clock speed increases. If 6970 overclocks similar to 6870 then headroom will be 10% at best. Given that Fermi yields >20%, the 6970 may not actually be that much faster when taken to it's thermal limits.
Likewise with 68xx vs GTX460. At stock the 68xx wins (6850 by a small margin, 6870 by a lot), but when all are overclocked to their limits the 460 can hold it;s own.
NVidia's counter for the 6970 will likely be a highly clocked 512SP GTX 480 (GTX 490??) with faster GDDR5. Given all of the above, NVida and ATI's top single GPU's may trun out to be pretty much equal.
Likewise with 68xx vs GTX460. At stock the 68xx wins (6850 by a small margin, 6870 by a lot), but when all are overclocked to their limits the 460 can hold it;s own.
NVidia's counter for the 6970 will likely be a highly clocked 512SP GTX 480 (GTX 490??) with faster GDDR5. Given all of the above, NVida and ATI's top single GPU's may trun out to be pretty much equal.
Soldato
Fair enough :thumbsup: Tis me that misunderstood then.
I thought he simply meant that that the tessellation would be twice the speed as two cores, rather than it being twice as fast etc. I also though he meant tessellation performance would be twice as fast, and not that games(apps) would be twice as fast as such. Anyway, moving on, if he's agreed with you
