Any good ISPs offering unlimited 8mb?

no_1_dave · 31 Mar 2006 at 08:35

All the unlimited ones have gone & I dont have Bulldog, BE or any kind of LLU in my exchange. I'm on Zen unlimited 2mb now but would love 8mb. Dont wanna have to sacrafice unlimited for it though, but I may have to :confused:

Angler · 31 Mar 2006 at 08:48

Freedom2surf are the only ISP I can think of that still lists an upto 8meg uncapped service.

Scottland · 31 Mar 2006 at 08:52

BB Max was launched today so you don't need to be in an LLU Exchange area, are Zen not offering it yet?

If not, hang in there I'm sure they will soon.

Unless they're offering it, but capped?

Phil99 · 31 Mar 2006 at 09:49

Unlimited 8meg on BT Wholesale services is commercial suicide for an ISP unless they charge the earth for it.

Cable/LLU are pretty much your only options, but Eclipse are currently uncapped and haven't released their Max packages yet so there could be a good package coming from them, but equally they could end up down the same capped route as all the other ISPs

VaderDSL · 31 Mar 2006 at 10:40

I am completely stuck on what to do for the summer, I will need something fast for 4 people sharing, so I originally looked at ADSL2 with bethere, but I really do not like the look of them now.

I don't want to have to plump for 2mb and that is too slow, so now I am hoping Nildram/Zen/Eclipse all bring out some nice juicy packages as I'll be signing up to one of those three without a second thought - imo the three best ISP's in the country (Zen > Nildram > Eclispe) from personal experience

Scottland · 31 Mar 2006 at 11:08

Nildram are offering 8meg via BB Max, I've sent in a regrade for it this morning.

50gig "peak" limit applies though.

no_1_dave · 31 Mar 2006 at 11:17

F2S are capped at 100Gb (soft cap, they moan if you go over that too often), they also traffic shape usenet

Zen offer 8mb but its capped at 50Gb, only good thing is no traffic shaping so I dont wanna change packages

tolien · 31 Mar 2006 at 11:58

Closest to unlimited you're likely to see is the Max Premium (ie what used to be Office) products - but Zen take £73 ex-VAT for Office2000...

Gman · 31 Mar 2006 at 12:18

no_1_dave said:
F2S also traffic shape usenet

no they don't mate not on the BT version think there might be something odd going on with the LLU version though.

Cuchulain · 31 Mar 2006 at 12:19

no_1_dave said:
All the unlimited ones have gone & I dont have Bulldog, BE or any kind of LLU in my exchange. I'm on Zen unlimited 2mb now but would love 8mb. Dont wanna have to sacrafice unlimited for it though, but I may have to

NDO do an uncapped (still governed by a fair usage policy though) 8mb max product for just under 40 quid a month.

axer · 31 Mar 2006 at 13:51

Why people keep on insisting on uncapped it beyond me, they are the first to moan when the service is ****. It’s always going to be **** poor unless you pay a proper price. Totally uncapped 8mbit is going to cost the ISP well in excess of £100 /month...

Raider · 31 Mar 2006 at 14:13

I'm about to sign up with Evolution DSL.

£24.99 for 8Mbit uncapped (apparently..)
1 month contract

Will see next week if it's any good!

Teal · 31 Mar 2006 at 14:53

Raider said:
I'm about to sign up with Evolution DSL.

£24.99 for 8Mbit uncapped (apparently..)
1 month contract

Will see next week if it's any good!

Check for any 'Fair use' clauses in the terms.

True uncapped 8Mb isn't commercially viable unless the majority of your customers are very low level users which is how AOL have managed to do it for so long.

no_1_dave · 31 Mar 2006 at 15:00

I might try evolution too. Looks almost promising. Going to email them & find out about fair use etc...

Teal · 31 Mar 2006 at 15:02

Their T&C's refer to their Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) but the AUP does not appear to be on their web site so you might want to ask for a copy of that.

Raider · 31 Mar 2006 at 15:14

Teal said:
Their T&C's refer to their Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) but the AUP does not appear to be on their web site so you might want to ask for a copy of that.

When I emailed I got this response:

As for unlimited - yes, we provide unlimited transfer with no throttling, shaping, port blocking, forced proxies, etc that the unscrupulous ISPs implement.

Chris

So sounds promising.. :confused:

Teal · 31 Mar 2006 at 15:31

Love the 'Unscrupulous' comment

I would still request a copy of thier AUP though. They refer to it on the web site and you will be governed by it if you go ahead with them so as well to understand what is in it.

Offering an 'unlimited' service is only financially viable if people don't use it and with the limited number of places that the high usage people can go these days any one basing a business model on 'unlimited' usage and the hope that they won't get a lot of high end users is asking for trouble.

Phil99 · 31 Mar 2006 at 16:25

Raider said:
I'm about to sign up with Evolution DSL.

£24.99 for 8Mbit uncapped (apparently..)
1 month contract

Will see next week if it's any good!

I give them 3 months before they start enforcing an AUP or go bust...either that or they have deep pockets

Worth a try though

stoofa · 31 Mar 2006 at 16:53

Raider said:
When I emailed I got this response:

So sounds promising..

So basically they are calling some 95% of the ISP's out there including the likes of Zen, Nildram etc 'Unscrupulous'

Sounds like a great company to sign up to...

I think most ISP's have at last realised that offering something totally uncapped is more or less impossible - unless they charge so much more for it.
Again, laugh at them if you like but AOL are one of the few ISP's that are again not introducing caps yet and have no plans on doing so.
Even now they are probably the only dial-up ISP out there that can give you a flat-rate connection with no data restrictions and the ability to remain connected to their dial-up network 24/7 if you wanted.

Energize · 31 Mar 2006 at 16:58

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