Anyone loan me £30k?

Dr Who · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:47

http://cgi.ebay.fr/Peugeot-205-Turbo-T16-version-client-Rally-street-car_W0QQitemZ320458032239

Drool!

:eek:

Firestar_3x · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:50

Always wanted one of these or the Renault 5 Mid engined equivalent since i was a kid.

Love them!

Ricochet J · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:50

I have a problem with cars like these. I'd love to own one, but no way will I pay £30k for what is essentially a fast 25 year old French supermini.

Firestar_3x · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:53

Thats because they only made 500 or slightly more, history costs!

Its not exactly something you would buy as an only car anyways.

jellybeard999 · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:56

Ricochet J said:
I have a problem with cars like these. I'd love to own one, but no way will I pay £30k for what is essentially a fast 25 year old French supermini.

It's nothing like a 205 apart from cosmetically.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1953/Peugeot-205-T16.html

Firestar_3x said:
Thats because they only made 500 or slightly more, history costs!

Its not exactly something you would buy as an only car anyways.

Requirement was 200, it's reckoned under 200 were made.

Obligatory video -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvvbkMnZ6I

Would love a Evolution 2 even more

Firestar_3x · 6 Dec 2009 at 13:59

Ah right i always thought you had to build 500 road going cars so you could race.

Firestar_3x · 6 Dec 2009 at 14:06

3:40 onwards, man i love that car!

mjt · 6 Dec 2009 at 14:29

that one seems like quite a bargain considering there are 2 others, albeit race spec, for €100,000 and €70,000 respectively :cool:

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/s...ORT&customerIdsAsString=&lang=en&pageNumber=1

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/s...ORT&customerIdsAsString=&lang=en&pageNumber=1

Janesy B · 6 Dec 2009 at 14:30

Any car of that sort is going to be pricey: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1175944.htm

grudas · 6 Dec 2009 at 14:36

cars like that price will just go up with years coming..

Torch [P4] · 6 Dec 2009 at 14:53

Firestar_3x said:
Ah right i always thought you had to build 500 road going cars so you could race.

wasn't it 200 for the group b specs? and 500 for the group a

Nick1881 · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:00

Wow £30k for that when it's not even that quick, if the specs are correct on the link above.

200bhp, I thought wow must be quick but its says weight is 1145Kgs. An Intregra is lighter and the same power and will probably corner just as well.

Skeeter · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:02

And you just know it will be bought by a collector and sit in a garage for the rest of its life

semi-pro waster · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:10

mr_x_plosion said:
Wow £30k for that when it's not even that quick, if the specs are correct on the link above.

200bhp, I thought wow must be quick but its says weight is 1145Kgs. An Intregra is lighter and the same power and will probably corner just as well.

I fear you may be missing the point slightly, it's rare (if less than 200 were made then that usually means it will be worth more), it's very fast for its time (and still not too shabby today), it's a piece of history, the sale is aimed at enthusiasts with more than a little nostalgia attached.

If you want something quick as an everyday driver then buy the Integra plus mods or whatever, if you want a modern era classic then the Peugot 205 Turbo is probably where your money should go from the choices. It's not a like for like comparison by any stretch, they're aimed at different markets once you get beyond the broad "they're both fast cars".

Housey · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:28

Torch [P4];15470110 said:
wasn't it 200 for the group b specs? and 500 for the group a

It was 200 for Group B and I believe it was actually 2000 for Group A with an evolution model allowed to be built after a period with only 500 models. Hence all the Evo's in the 80's and the RS500 etc.

Alibaba99 · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:33

Torch [P4];15470110 said:
wasn't it 200 for the group b specs? and 500 for the group a

Yup, hence the Sierra Cosworth RS500 and the RS200.

The_Dark_Side · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:38

Housey said:
It was 200 for Group B and I believe it was actually 2000 for Group A with an evolution model allowed to be built after a period with only 500 models. Hence all the Evo's in the 80's and the RS500 etc.

200 and 5000 examples required respectively, with the rules allowing a 10% evolution version creating cars like the RS200E (20 of) and the RS500 (obviously 500 of).

The_Dark_Side · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:45

Ricochet J said:
I have a problem with cars like these. I'd love to own one, but no way will I pay £30k for what is essentially a fast 25 year old French supermini.

TBH mate, that's like saying "no way would I pay almost a million quid for a Veyron when essentially it's a fast car".
Road cars like the T16 only exist because the rules wouldn't let the manufacturers make the handful of cars they wanted, they were forced to build 200 of them, so someone thought "why not sell the 180 or so examples we don't want". I've driven quite a few Group B road cars and none of them are anything special performance-wise in standard trim. Typically you get around 140mph top speed and 6ish seconds to 60. But with some mild fettling you can unleash the beast fairly easily.

jellybeard999 · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:52

mr_x_plosion said:
Wow £30k for that when it's not even that quick, if the specs are correct on the link above.

200bhp, I thought wow must be quick but its says weight is 1145Kgs. An Intregra is lighter and the same power and will probably corner just as well.

They were really just built to produce a quota. Even so, they're still very desirable. The Evolution models are the quick ones, of which only 20 were required. I believe the RS200 Evolution still holds the 0-60 production car world record (2.16 seconds or something silly). The evo trims run at around 600+bhp.

MagicBoy · 6 Dec 2009 at 16:54

30k is a bargain. Peugeot must have made a loss on every car they sold.

The works rally cars would have come out of the original allocation of 200 IIRC.