Apple Event - 30th October - 2pm - "There's more in the making"

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Yep OS XI will be out in 12-18 months running on the A13/X so they can put that processing power to use rather then wasting it in an ipad.

Mac OS finds itself in a very large open coffin, and the latest ipad pro has knocked the first nail in it.

I was just thinking today about a mac air type laptop running on an A series chip with an OLED screen and all the bells and whistles that brings with it.
Imagine the battery life!

Where did intel go wrong?
 
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But Xcode isn’t available for iOS yet? macOS won’t be going anywhere. And if Apple can do magical things with it coupled with the A chips, maybe it won’t be the death knell many fear.
 
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Buy could you imagine the hardcore OS X fans... because you know all the features less than 1% of people use.

“Apple doesn’t care about pro users... #boycot”
 
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What's wrong with dual boot? Or triple boot if you include Windows?

iPad/Mac Laptops being able to run iOS, MacOS and Windows on arm chips.

Only a tiny fraction of users need to be able to run xcode or any other specialised software like that anyway.
 
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I was just thinking today about a mac air type laptop running on an A series chip with an OLED screen and all the bells and whistles that brings with it.
Imagine the battery life!

Where did intel go wrong?

I’d probably buy it.

However, you just know it would be compromised immediately. The screen size and resolution would reduce the anticipated battery life, and Apple would make the design impossibly thin for aesthetics and that would compromise the battery size.

But it would be beautiful. And expensive. Very Apple.
 

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https://ark.intel.com/compare/134892,134905

3MB cache, mostly useless hyperthreading, 200Mhz on the base clock (<7%), 500Mhz on the mostly unachievable boost clocks (<15%). For a 57% premium on the base price.

Not what I'd call significantly quicker for general use, or good value. It's worth noting the difference in Intel headline prices is $111, which translates to £150 from Apple. Maybe worth it if you're running a video rendering farm.

I was talking about the Air, not the Mini, but it may or may not be the same. Does the Y even have an i7 version?

Here's an interesting article discussing the differences between the (base) Pro, MacBook and the new Air.

https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/31/macbook-air-intel-processor-cooling/

It's suggesting that the new Air may sip battery like the MacBook, but potentially have the same power as the Pro due to it's active cooling.

Definitely interested to see some benchmarks to see how they differ. At first glance it looked a bit poor, but after reading that it may actually be a pretty capable machine.
 
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I was talking about the Air, not the Mini, but it may or may not be the same. Does the Y even have an i7 version?

It's suggesting that the new Air may sip battery like the MacBook, but potentially have the same power as the Pro due to it's active cooling.

There is a Y series i7, it’s the same line of processors used in the Surface Pro and similar windows machines.

I doubt the MacBook will ever get up to Pro like performance other than in short bursts as will will not be able to sustain the turbo for long. That being said most normal people only need it in short bursts and don’t do sustained tasks like rendering on a super thin and light. The SP certainly can’t sustain for long periods with its active cooling and that’s in a similar realm of thinness. They probably don’t want another MBP incident.
 
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If MacOS is 'dead', why did they make such a big deal about running iOS applications on the Mac? Their Home, Stock and News apps, etc..

I can't see it happening myself, that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see their chips replacing Intel at some point in the future.
 
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I can't see it happening myself, that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see their chips replacing Intel at some point in the future.

Will the chips be designed to run a desktop OS? Wouldn't they be built to purely concentrate on iOS? I must admit I don't really know much about how CPUs work with different systems etc.
 

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MacOS isn't going anywhere.

Can't see the entire Apple staff/creative community going to Windows or iPads for content creation and development.
 
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Question isn't whether MacOS lives or dies is it?

I thought it was about whether it will transition to ARM or stay x86, given the power of Apple's CPUs these days and the rapid development they are seeing on that front
 
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