Apple post record profits.

semi-pro waster said:
Well I don't know about the "not gay" part of your statement but telling people not only that you own a Mac Book Pro but also the year of manufacture could be a little bit pretentious. Typed on an '06 Lenovo R60... except when I say that all you should possibly feel is pity. :p

It's not just to pick on you but why does the year of manufacture matter? Unless something magical happens every year to distinguish them from each other - unicorns one year, centaurs the next etc? Do you get a new keyboard layout? A bigger screen? Is it a faster processor? I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea about what the distinction is so that's why I don't see the fascination some people have with putting the year next to their toy.
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Really? you honestly don't know why? lets compare :

Sony VAIO E Series VPC-EE2E1E/WI

Macbook

instead of having a massive amount of numbers and letters you just put the year which identifies the main changes from the previous or future generations of the macbook.
 
Amp34 said:
Wrong. Every company and their nan were already bringing out Tablets. MS were 2 months ahead of Apple with new consumer slate release info and there were dozens of other Android based tablets on display at a show a month or two before Apple decided to host a conference displaying theirs. 2010 was the year of the tablet since January, it's the year that technology has caught up with desire (in this respect). The only thing Apple have really excelled at is bringing theirs to market before most of the others managed to (part thanks to the Trega 2 issue that delayed most of the tablets on display in January for at least 6 months).:)
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I think Microsoft proved with Kin that they don't have a clue how to make a consumer electronics device.

And considering the ipad has been on sale since May in the UK, the fact that 5 months later we're still yet to see an android tablet that is comparable with the ipad on sale yet says this isnt just another case of apple doing things quicker than everybody else.

WHere are these "dozens" of android tablets that have been around since before the ipad by the way ?

Theres a great list of the android tablets going round

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tEHKyz7d6FqqhgrujfHtCiA&hl=en#gid=75

not many been out longer than the ipad, or even much more than a month for that matter ;)
 
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Win 7 v Snow Leopard is an interesting one.

They're both incredibly capable. I love Win 7's interface. I've found I'm using it an awful lot more than I used to - I used to do a lot of my 'normal' stuff in OSX.

You find yourself adding utilities to OSX to get features like Win7 - the snap to effect on Windows for example. On the other hand some features on Win7 suck compare to OSX - Spotlight knocks the search on Win7 into the weeds IMO.

Still, competition drives innovation doesn't it? I for one am glad Microsoft has a direct competitor* that makes them up their game.

*On the direct competitor piece, they only really directly compete in the consumer market. I love my Mac kit, there's no way in hell I'd recommend a big corporate go Mac. Well, firstly, I'd obviously get fired :D, and secondly they just can't cut it in terms of global and scale management.
 
MacRS4 said:
The year against a MBP simply denotes its spec and capabilities. You wouldn't do it against say a Win laptop as their spec seems to change every other day. I know that's not quite true but I'm sure you know what I mean.

Personally I find the whole Apple v Microsoft thing quite tedious.

Apple is too expensive! Don't buy one. It's not rocket science.

I get a lot of stick for using my MBP for work (considering who I work for...) and yet when I show a lot of our devs and TAMs *why* I use my MBP a lot of them understand it.... and they also bitch that there's no way they could get one from Corp.
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Compare it to a single company and it's very different. Depends if you class macbooks as laptops or as their own seperate sector....

For example Sony have about half a dozen laptops that they update every 6 months+, sounds like another company I can think of...

Personally if Apple ever get round to sticking some decent hardware in the 13" MBP I'd be tempted to buy it, until that point I'm going to have to wait until I can afford the Sony Z series (£4k for a 13" laptop, who said Apple was expensive?)

MrLOL said:
I think Microsoft proved with Kin that they don't have a clue how to make a consumer electronics device.

And considering the ipad has been on sale since May in the UK, the fact that 5 months later we're still yet to see an android tablet that is comparable with the ipad on sale yet says this isnt just another case of apple doing things quicker than everybody else.

WHere are these "dozens" of android tablets that have been around since before the ipad by the way ?
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The kin I agree with however it's fair to say you didn't really read the rest of my post...

Those dozens of android tablets that have been around since january were on display at CES at the beginning of january (most working prototypes, much like the iPad when it was displayed in March/April). As I already pointed out most haven't been released yet... (If you'd read my post properly you would have realised that... ;)) Again most run the Trega 2 chipset that was delayed massively...

So yes, what I'm saying is Apple didn't do anything revolutionary with the iPad, there were plenty of working versions before the display, unfortunately most of them were delayed meaning Apple (who were one of the last to show theirs) got it to market before hand.

I'd still love to see the stats for the iPad though, specifically how many were bought by people who don't already own an Apple product (excluding an iPod to be fair). I'm guessing that is relatively low...
 
MacRS4 said:
The year against a MBP simply denotes its spec and capabilities. You wouldn't do it against say a Win laptop as their spec seems to change every other day. I know that's not quite true but I'm sure you know what I mean.
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Thanks for the explanation.

sanaxe1 said:
Really? you honestly don't know why? lets compare :

Sony VAIO E Series VPC-EE2E1E/WI

Macbook

instead of having a massive amount of numbers and letters you just put the year which identifies the main changes from the previous or future generations of the macbook.
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If pushed I'd probably have guessed that but my ignorance (not entirely faux) is to illustrate the point, why do people feel the need to highlight that they've got XX generation with the assumption you know it has XX specification - it's pretty much an irrelevance to this debate. Or let's put it another way - outside of the hardware forums do you see many other people saying I've got YY PC in a casual conversation?
 
Amp34 said:
That's interesting, last time I looked Sony was in profit by quite a large amount too.:)
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Yeh i couldn't find any 2010 figures at the time but i have found this which was said a few months ago :

Sony Corp., the world’s No.3 television maker, raised its full-year earnings forecasts after sales of TVs helped the company post an unexpected profit last quarter.

Net income will probably be 60 billion yen ($688 million) in the year ending March 2011, compared with an earlier projection of 50 billion yen, the Tokyo-based company said in a statement today. Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative expenses, may be 180 billion yen, compared with the 160 billion yen forecast in May.
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