*** The official Apple September Event Thread - Tuesday 10th September 2019 ***

[Feek]

That's a plus point in my book. It means I don't need a new cradle in my car each time I change the phone.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

3rd year on a similar design? Not sure which phones you have been using.

Aside from shrinking bezels the form factor has been pretty much the same since the iPhone 6. Samsung has used the same form factor since they released the edge.

Not sure what you expect other than a thin rectangular slab with a screen on the front?

iPhone 6, 6S, 7 and 8 were almost indistinguishable and look completely identical in a case.

This is because the form factor design for a smartphone has evolved as far as possible with the current materials and technologies available.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

This is because the form factor design for a smartphone has evolved as far as possible with the current materials and technologies available.

I know, I highlighting the fact that phone design hasn't really moved in 6 years not 3.

I was specifically addressing the 'why no new design' type comments. Most people either:

• can't describe what they should change or why
• want a design facilitated by tech doesn't exist
• want something that can't be manufactured by the 10's of million

You aren't going to see radical or risky designs from the likes of Apple or Samsung on their volume products. Even then Apple has also had it's fair share of gaffs after making design changes, Mac Pro, 'you're holding it wrong', bend gate and those keyboards to name a few. Unlike Samsung (Note 7, Fold) Apple has manged to get away with it so far.

 

[Mr_Cool]

Bloombergs what to expect:

iPhone:

• Apple is planning to launch three new iPhones, as it has done each year since 2017: “Pro” iPhone models to succeed the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max as well as a successor to the iPhone XR.
• The main feature of the Pro iPhones will be a new camera system on the back with a third sensor for capturing ultra-wide-angle photos and videos. The extra camera will let users zoom out and capture a larger field of view. The sensors will capture three images simultaneously and use new artificial intelligence software to automatically correct the combined photo if, for example, a person is accidentally cut out of one of the shots. The new system will also take higher resolution pictures rivaling some traditional cameras. Photos taken in very low-light environments will improve, too.
• The high-end handsets will have significantly upgraded video recording capabilities, getting them closer to professional video cameras. Apple has developed a feature that allow users to retouch, apply effects, alter colors, reframe and crop video as it is being recorded live on the device.

• Another notable new feature: A reverse wireless charging system so that a user can power-up the latest AirPods in the optional wireless-charging case by leaving it on the back of the new Pro phones. This is similar to a capability that Samsung Electronics Co. rolled out for its Galaxy handsets earlier this year.
• The high-end iPhones will look nearly identical to the current models from the front and feature the same size screens, but at least some colors on the back will have a matte finish versus the existing glossy look. The new models should hold up better when they’re dropped due to new shatter-resistance technology.
• The phones will include a new multi-angle Face ID sensor that captures a wider field of view so that users can unlock the handsets more easily – even when the devices are flat on a table.
• Apple has dramatically enhanced water resistance for the new models, which could allow them to be submerged under water far longer than the 30-minute rating on the current iPhones.
• The new models will have updated OLED screens that lack the pressure-sensitive 3D Touch technology. Apple is replacing this with Haptic Touch, which essentially mirrors 3D Touch’s functionality with a long press, as it did with the iPhone XR last year.
• The iPhone XR’s successor will gain a second back camera for optical zoom, the ability to zoom in further without degrading quality, and enhanced portrait mode. Apple is also adding a new green version.
• All of the new iPhones will have faster A13 processors. There’s a new component in the chip, known internally as the “AMX” or “matrix” co-processor, to handle some math-heavy tasks, so the main chip doesn’t have to. That may help with computer vision and augmented reality, which Apple is pushing a core feature of its mobile devices.
• None of the new models will include 5G, but next year’s will. They’ll also have rear-facing 3-D cameras that will boost augmented reality capabilities.

iPad:

• After launching new mid-tier iPad Air and iPad mini models earlier this year, Apple is planning to refresh the iPad Pro and its low-end iPad for schools.
• The 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pros will get similar upgrades to the iPhones, gaining upgraded cameras and faster processors. Otherwise, the new iPads will look like the current versions.
• The low-end iPad’s screen will be 10.2-inches. That means Apple will likely no longer sell a new model with a 9.7-inch display, discontinuing the original display size after using it for nearly a decade.

Apple Watch, AirPods, and HomePod:

• After revamping the Apple Watch last year with a new design and bigger screens, this year’s changes will be more muted, focusing on the watchOS 6 software update, and new case finishes. References to new ceramic and titanium models have been found in an early version of iOS 13, Apple’s latest mobile operating system.
• Apple is working on new AirPods that are likely to be more expensive than the current $159 model. New features will include water resistance and noise cancellation with a launch planned by next year. Apple introduced a new version of the entry-level AirPods in March with hands-free Siri support and longer battery life.
• Apple is also working on a cheaper HomePod for as early as next year. The current $300 model hasn’t sold very well. The new model is likely to have two tweeters (a type of loudspeaker), down from seven in the current HomePod.

Mac:

• Apple is planning a revamped MacBook Pro with a screen over 16-inches diagonally. The bezels on the new laptop will be slimmer so the overall size of the laptop will be close to the current 15-inch models.
• The new laptop would mark Apple’s largest since the 17-inch MacBook Pro was discontinued in 2012. It’s part of an effort by Apple to retain and woo professional computer users.
• Apple is also launching the previously announced Mac Pro and 32-inch XDR Pro Display later this year

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ad-pro-16-inch-macbook-pro-airpods-3-features

 

[Minstadave]

Whilst I'd ready to go back to iOS I'm loathe to do so if theres no 5G support. It seems a big oversight.

 

[Mr_Cool]

Really wouldn't call it a big oversight.
Pretty sure theres a reason majority of manufacturers are only offering 5G in their really high end models but huge batterys...
First gen 5G modems, I cant say I'd want one tbh from the sounds of it they're big battery hogs for one.

I mean if you're spending £1000+ on a phone I can see why you'd want 5G now especially.

Can't say it bothers me right now, would it make it a more compelling package? Sure, but its not a deal breaker.

Admittedly I'm reluctantly upgrading next month from my 7, I'm ready for something new I cannot wait another year.

5G on a 2019 iPhone was never going to happen, they were in dispute with Qualcomm who were pretty much the only option for 5G as far as Apple were concerned. Thats resolved now so its on track for 2020, but I feel even If they weren't I dont think they would have included it this year.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Whilst I'd ready to go back to iOS I'm loathe to do so if theres no 5G support. It seems a big oversight.

Because its absolutely mental to put 5g in a phone these days, its not anywhere near mature enough for real world use and absolutely pointless, 4g is plenty, everyones only on sodding social media anyway which doesn't need much bandwidth.

 

[Broken Hope]

Whilst I'd ready to go back to iOS I'm loathe to do so if theres no 5G support. It seems a big oversight.

There's very little coverage and the first gen modems don't even support all the current or soon to be available spectrum, 5G this year makes no sense, next year for 5G makes a lot more sense.

https://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-x50-vs-x55-modem-why-x55-so-important-5gs-future

Next years modems make much more sense.

 

[Somnambulist]

Apple didn't adopt 3G, 4G, or things like 4K on the ATV until each standard had matured a bit, don't see why they'd do anything differently for 5G (side note, seeing far too many conspiracy theory '5G will give you brain cancer' posts on social media, just as with 4G before it)...

 

[Yaayuh!]

I still use 3G most of the time as coverage is better and it's plenty fast enough for my use

 

[iMacMart]

Hi guys

do Apple allow trade ins for series 4 if the 5 is released?

 

[Ryan-3]

I am right in thinking this is normally at the start of September? My contract is up for renewal half way through the month so hoping I could potentially get a decent deal on an XS device.

 

[Minstadave]

I am right in thinking this is normally at the start of September? My contract is up for renewal half way through the month so hoping I could potentially get a decent deal on an XS device.

I'm always underwhelmed by deals on previous gen Apple phones, they control the market very effectively.

Even now iphone X deals are underwhelming and the relatively mediocre XR is still expensive.

 

[MrRockliffe]

I am right in thinking this is normally at the start of September? My contract is up for renewal half way through the month so hoping I could potentially get a decent deal on an XS device.

Yep, I think 7th of Sep.

You should be able to get a good deal black friday time if you can wait - I got my XS with 90GB data for £37 pcm

 

[Ryan-3]

I'm always underwhelmed by deals on previous gen Apple phones, they control the market very effectively.

You're quite right to be honest. They start giving good headline figures but once you look at the deal, it's anything but great.

You should be able to get a good deal black friday time if you can wait - I got my XS with 90GB data for £37 pcm

That is exactly what I did with my current contract.

 

[malachi]

Hi guys

do Apple allow trade ins for series 4 if the 5 is released?

Don't see why not, their trade in scheme is still going.

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/trade-in

 

[iMacMart]

Don't see why not, their trade in scheme is still going.

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/trade-in

Doesn’t show the Apple Watch Series 4 on that link, think I checked there before

 

[malachi]

Doesn’t show the Apple Watch Series 4 on that link, think I checked there before

Did you try at the bottom, it says Watch upto £130 and it lets you type in the serial no of the watch if you select Apple.

 

[iMacMart]

Did you try at the bottom, it says Watch upto £130 and it lets you type in the serial no of the watch if you select Apple.

Yep did all that?

 

[b0rn2sk8]

It’s unlikely you’ll be able to trade in an S4 until the store has updated to the S5. There is nothing to upgrade to....