Apples ridiculous prices compared to PC's of same spec

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MR.B said:
I think she got lucky. Not heard of anything like that before.
I know someone in America who got a virus on her MacBook, she took it in...
Store guy: "Erm but Macs dont get viruses"
Her: "Yes they do!"
*Mac employee goes off with MacBook and comes back 10mins later*
Store guy: "Sign this and we'll give you a replacement"

What it was is a disclosure agreement saying she had to agree that she would not tell anyone about her Mac getting a virus, as officially Apple like to pretend Macs dont get viruses. If she didn't do that they would not replace it.
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My friend always does the "Macs don't get viruses" thing. I then mention how at Pwn 2 Own the Macbook was the first one to get hacked and he then says "But the guy had to visit a website to do that". Its easy to go on the internet and not get bad stuff on your PC, its all user error.
 
In other news drinking beer in an expensive night club costs more than drinking beer in a 'spoons pub (even if the glass contains the same beer).

If you're bothered about spending a few hundred more on a laptop with an apple label on then don't buy one.

Some people like OSX, some people had bad experiences with windows in the past and some people simply don't care because spending a few hundred extra is going to have no effect on their life.
 
It's the same reason Porsche can charge ~£90k for a 911 Turbo but a Nissan GTR is £60k.

It's a premium all round product. You don't like it, don't buy it.

/edit - £107k for a basic Turbo. Yikes
 
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Kemik said:
Yes. I'm saying OS X is not limited. If you had used OS X for any extended amount of time from a neutral point of view you'd agree. I wouldn't call either OS limited. OS X can do everything Windows 7 does.

But seriously, what's the point in discussing this further because you're clearly close minded and certain you are right.

Prove me wrong, post something you know which makes OS X limited.
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To be fair to him, theres a very limited amount of Antivirus and Malware software out there for OSX ;)
 
AtticusFinch said:
If you want to ignore the legal arrangements you can sort of make it work.

But what you have is not really OSX is a hacked version.
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I would say the OSX is more capable then Windows because, legally, you can run both together on an Apple computer, giving you the full range of software for both platforms, but on a PC it is not legal to run OSX. :D :p
 
tombrr said:
Name something you've tried to find for a MAC and couldn't?

Because I highly doubt there's not 1 piece of software for the PC that you can't get an equivalent to on a MAC
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off the top of my head:

fractal plugin for photoshop
a decent version of excel
TT xtrader

I have both though so not too fussed
 
Kemik said:
Prove me wrong, post something you know which makes OS X limited.
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Well i was talking about in general, not specific to the OS but the platform. But heres some limitations for both:

It supports way less hardware, for instance it will not detect or even support as many hardware configurations as Windows does without the need for drivers or modifications.
It does not support DirectX (of course).
The OpenGL which it does support is versions out of date.
It hardware acceleration is limited - No GPU acceleration on OSX in web browsers, pretty big issue this. It's possible to do, but not as easy as Windows has dedicated support and infrastructure in the OS for this.
You get hardware and technologies later (USB 3.0 and the latest graphics, CPU's..).
Theres hundreds of thousands more software available for Windows. Even yesterday i had trouble finding any decent and free virus and malware protection.
 
You can't compare prices of xeons, registered ram and workstation motherboards with the equivilant desktop equipment.

The performance comparisons are perfectly valid though and I don't see the point of it either.

If you priced up a windows PC with some supermicro board, 2 6 core xeons and 24GB of suitable buffered ram you'd probably find it quite eye watering as well. Not as bad as the mac, but still bad.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Depends on what you're doing whether something being notionally more limited than another product affects you in any way - for instance at home I tend to use Open Office for word processing/spreadsheets but inarguably it's more "limited" than Word or Excel - do I notice the difference most of the time, not at all.
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I actually prefer Openoffice, only just found the PDF editing addon and it is ace :D
 
I'm note sure if Openoffice is the same for Windows as it is for the Mac, but I've used the Windows version and found Office 2007 (particularly Excel) to be streets ahead of it.
 
I bought my macbook pro for the astonishing battery life (I'm getting 10 hours with an ssd in it). I think in future I will always buy apple for my laptop/portable needs. I'll stick to a pc for my desktop though as its much better value for money in comparison to the mac equivalent.

As for OSX vs win7. I like them both and use them both daily.
 
To be honest, just close the thread.

It's a waste of time people will never learn not to bring this debate up. Some people like to pay a small fortune for a PC with an Apple logo that's up to them, they are nice to use and have better support due to being closed from variation, get used it.
 
MR.B said:
It supports way less hardware, for instance it will not detect or even support as many hardware configurations as Windows does without the need for drivers or modifications.
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Irrelevant, as the hardware the Apple sells is fully supported.

MR.B said:
The OpenGL which it does support is versions out of date.
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Source?

MR.B said:
It hardware acceleration is limited - No GPU acceleration on OSX in web browsers, pretty big issue this. It's possible to do, but not as easy as Windows has dedicated support and infrastructure in the OS for this.
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False


MR.B said:
Theres hundreds of thousands more software available for Windows.
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Dominant marketplace platforms will always have the most software, it simply makes financial sense. It doesn't mean that it's any good, though :p

MR.B said:
Even yesterday i had trouble finding any decent and free virus and malware protection.
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For Mac? That's probably because it's not a necessity. There's ClamXAv, iAntivirus and now Sophos that provide free AV.
 
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