ArcheAge, Ultima Online's rebirth?

[Tombstone]

I think the objection is more that you need to have a subscription AND buy from the store to get the most from the game.

But thats the very part that I disagree with. You dont NEED to buy from the store to get the most from the game. I've not bought a single thing from the store, not had any need to, and Ive thoroughly enjoyed the game and have played pretty much all aspects of it.

So I disagree that you need to buy from the store to get the most...to get the most out of it as quickly as people who buy from the store..yes, that I would agree with. But then that comes back to the impatience thing I mentioned early on. And dont get me wrong, I can understand that, there is and always has been a very strong compulsion in gamers to have things as fast as other people, thats the very reason terms like rushing/powerlevelling/hardcore etc exist in gaming.

 

[Tombstone]

See now you are misquoting what I have said, Owning a house and building it is the basics of having a subscription you are now saying having a subscription does not entitle me to be able to do these things.... so what is the point of the subscription?

Well, maybe I worded myself wrong, but I never meant that it does not entitle you to be able to do these things, point blank. I meant that it does not necessarily entitle you to be able to do these things as easily as someone working as a group.

I also do not think it should take me 3-4 days of WAITING to be able to build the very basics of a house + farm on my own which is the very basics of land owning and one of the main things the game raves about and advertises its subscription players can have.

So it is indeed an issue of patience then?

Yes..and what is wrong with that advertisement ? Its entirely correct surely? subscription players CAN have a house and a farm. I dont recall seeing them saying anywhere that because a person has a subscription they can own a house and a farm easily or even as easily as a player working with others

 

[Tombstone]

Dont get me wrong...if I had my own personal choice (mainly just to stop me having to listen to so much whining about it) , then I would choose to not have a shop at all, and to not even allow free 2 play accounts at all. My choice would be to make it subscription only and be done with it. At least then people might concentrate on talking about the game itself rather than things relating to the exterior of the game.

 

[Tombstone]

For instance in wow, I either have a subscription or I don't, Having one entitles me to all the content I can adequately do without waiting 3 or 4 days to be able to do it (assuming I am at the relevant level to do the content). Archeage is making me wait 3-4 days to to finish and then 24 hours to maintain as well as making me pay to even get to this level. Without a subscription you can maintain land and a house yes, but with a cap of 2000 labour and only 5 labour every 5 minutes while logged in it is next to impossible to maintain this therefore I am being forced to get a subscription to do this and then forced to spend more money simply to maintain it adequately, That is the objection here..

But why wait 3 or 4 days? That just makes no sense to me, why not just team up with a good guild? You'd have the building built in 30 or 40mins let alone days. Its not Archeage making you wait 3-4 days to finish a building, its you , because (sorry if I am wrong on this, just working on an assumption based upon what youve written) you dont want to enlist the help of others. I can assure you, I..nor anyone in my guild, will be waiting 3 or 4 days to build anything, whether its a small structure or a huge structure and that wont be because any of us has spent money , it will be because we worked together to achieve it.

 

[Woogie]

Your right, I do not want to get involved with a big guild, I want to play with my brother and a few mates. My point is, to build the absolute basics should not take 3-4 days of waiting and I shouldn't have to rely on others etc

 

[Tombstone]

Your right, I do not want to get involved with a big guild, I want to play with my brother and a few mates. My point is, to build the absolute basics should not take 3-4 days of waiting and I shouldn't have to rely on others etc

Well thats the beauty of the genre, theres wodge loads of MMOs out there where you can solo all the way to max and never have to interact or work with anyone else if you dont want to.

I think the appeal of Archeage for me, is that it harks back to those early MMOs that I loved so much, where I needed to work with other players to get things done, its not everyones cup of tea of course, but for me, one of the essences and critical points for me in playing a multiplayer game is to socialise and interact with others that I may not normally get to encounter in other walks of life. Its as much a social experience, meeting folks, seeing if we can work together etc, for me..as it is an experience about seeing if I can get my pixels to lvl 100 or get the massive 2 hander of ultimate death drop. (actually, its more the former than the latter I would say, as I can do the latter in any number of other titles)

But yes, if you only want to group with your brother and a few friends, then I would say you definitely are not going to get anywhere in Archeage and its probably not the best fit for you.

 

[Frenzy]

So I started a character just now to try out the free weekend. I got into the game and after a couple of minutes my game froze. Archeage then quit by itself. Tried to log back in and it says my account is banned...

edit: It's working again now.

 

[Xordium]

They seem to have been VERY inspired by GW2.

 

[Sega Mega Dave]

This was released 5 months after GW2 i very much doubt they took a lot from it. Add to that it feels nothing like GW2 anyway.

Oh and to those complaining it takes a couple of days to build a house or whatever, it's an mmo it should take time. It seems the modern gamer wants to be max level and have every nice toy within a week.

 

[Frenzy]

Anyone have a clue as to why my account keeps saying I'm banned? I've literally been playing for less than an hour.

 

[Tombstone]

They seem to have been VERY inspired by GW2.

In what way?

I dont really see anything at all thats GW2 like, let alone enough to qualify as VERY.

Farming in GW2? nope
Ships in GW2? nope
Housing in GW2? nope
Versatile Dye system in Archeage? nope
Seperate Instanced large scale PvP in Archeage? nope
Open world PvP , attackable by all including your own faction in GW2? nope
Personal vehicles in GW2? nope
Mounts which can carry passengers in GW2? nope
Trade routes in GW2? nope
Flying in GW2? nope

Other than the fact that both have somewhat of an asian aesthetic, I dont see much similar at all.

 

[Xordium]

The aesthetic is a carbon copy of GW2 in my opinion - GUI placement, everything, etc. Although with poorer textures and a washed out look. I had high hopes for this game but it's not the one for me.

 

[dakaiez]

Each to their own, put in around 1.5-2k hours into GW2 and it feels nothing like Archeage.

Having played both i'd say Archeage feels better personally and completely different.

 

[Xordium]

Each to their own, put in around 1.5-2k hours into GW2 and it feels nothing like Archeage.

Having played both i'd say Archeage feels better personally and completely different.

Yep, I prefer the combat to GW2 which I also found disappointing but it just isn't for me.

 

[Goberpiles316]

What's the deal with free to play v the package options?

 

[dakaiez]

Yep, I prefer the combat to GW2 which I also found disappointing but it just isn't for me.

Yeah that's fair enough, least you gave it a go.

What's the deal with free to play v the package options?

It's mainly for headstart, few items/benefits and supporting the company. You don't need to buy a package, just if you do you can start playing on the 12th and on the 16th if you don't.

 

[Tombstone]

The aesthetic is a carbon copy of GW2 in my opinion - GUI placement, everything, etc. Although with poorer textures and a washed out look. I had high hopes for this game but it's not the one for me.

Well , as Dakaiez said, each to their own.

For me, GUI placement..well, its an MMO, most MMOs have the same placement of things for a GUI. Its a layout that works, a layout that everyone is instantly familiar with, no need to alter it. Though of course in Archeage you can move almost every aspect of the GUI around should you desire it laid out differently.

One thing I would never dismiss a game for (or indeed , almost anything in life for) is aesthetics. If I did, I would have missed out on an awful lot of good games over the years.

Its the game features of Archeage which blow the opposition away in my opinion, I simply cannot think of a single other MMO which contains all of the game features of Archeage. But theres plenty of different MMOs out there, so lots more fish in the sea for you to find the one for you

 

[Tombstone]

What's the deal with free to play v the package options?

IMO, the package options are better than free to play, particularly if you dont have a good guild with you, if you've got a good guild, then free to play is fine. But if not, the advantages of the subscription is definitely worth it. Case in point being that you can own housing and farms if you have a subscription, but you have to share with other players who do have a subscription if you dont.

 

[Xordium]

But theres plenty of different MMOs out there, so lots more fish in the sea for you to find the one for you

I wish there were Tombstone but there is nothing really on the horizon or out there that ticks the boxes or at least nothing I have found.

 

[Tombstone]

I wish there were Tombstone but there is nothing really on the horizon or out there that ticks the boxes or at least nothing I have found.

What sort of thing are you looking for? Theres several hundred mmos on the market, chances are that someone here has played one that ticks your boxes, maybe one you havent considered trying.