Arctic Freezer 7 or Akasa AK-960E?

This is a very interesting thread. Big Wayne and Sohari are obviously not that impressed with their AC Freezer 7's and are vociferously recommending a very expensive cooler they haven't actually got yet.

MX James has got one and is quoting 40C load temps on his heavily overclocked E6300. But his temperatures are lower than I can get with my active water system I'm wondering if MX James is quoting Coretemp or TAT figures, or the ones his motherboard program is reporting?

The other thing a lot of people are missing here is that the E6600 is not an E6300, the stock Intel HSF that ships with it is a different part to the one that ships with the E6300. An E6600 at 3GHz is not putting out the same heat load as an E6300 running at the same speed because the FSB is lower and generally so is the voltage being applied.

Of the two coolers you ask about in the thread title, I would buy the AC Freezer Pro 7 as it's a bargain at the price. I think Big Wayne either has a bad chip (dished IHS or poor contact between the IHS and the cores) or he has a dodgy Freezer 7 (I'm sure there must be ways to make a heat-pipe that is defective).

I think Sohari has unrealistic expectations of a £15 cooler. I hope when he's shelled out for the Tuniq he's happier.

If you're expecting it to be silent, then you'll be disappointed. If you want good cooling in silence then you'll need a water cooled system.

You can waste a lot of money looking for a 'quiet' cooler. Ultimately the only things making noise in the PC really are the fans, the hard drives and the optical drives. I have a fully passive water-cooled system and it's silent, until the optical drives spin up and then you realise just how loud they are. :rolleyes:
 
I'll let people know how my nuw Tuniq does...I'll be messing around with all the bits (and putting them all together) over the weekend...
 
If you have good airflow in your case (and low ambient temp.) then the Scythe Ninja can be run passively (no fan) and hence very quietly. I played with the Ninja for a while and the temps I got with and without a fan were only a couple of degrees different. Unfortunately, none of the temps I got were low enough for me to comfortably achieve my present overclock and I got better results with the AC Freezer 7 Pro.

As WJA has said, all CPUs are not the same so just because one person gets low 30s at idle with a certain CPU and cooler, another will not necessarily achieve the same. There are also many other variables at work.

All of the coolers mentioned here are probably good ones so whatever decision you make, as I've already said, don't get put off by one person's bad experience - do some research (Google) and then decide.
 
WJA96 said:
This is a very interesting thread. Big Wayne and Sohari are obviously not that impressed with their AC Freezer 7's and are vociferously recommending a very expensive cooler they haven't actually got yet.
Lol hold on a sec, don't you think that last bit is a bit OTT! :D

WJA96 said:
Of the two coolers you ask about in the thread title, I would buy the AC Freezer Pro 7 as it's a bargain at the price. I think Big Wayne either has a bad chip (dished IHS or poor contact between the IHS and the cores) or he has a dodgy Freezer 7 (I'm sure there must be ways to make a heat-pipe that is defective).
Now your just being polite, where is the other option that says I'm a bimbling buffon that hasn't a clue ;)

No actually since I took my system off auto it seems to have cooled a bit, really not sure what vCore is sets when its on auto P5B-Deluxe?

My chip really does appear flat (it has the bevelled ISH rather than a sharp edge ISH) as does the base of the Freezer pro 7.
 
I think you have poor IHS->Core contact, wayne... I think I do too (my temps are similar to yours; 40'c idle, 52'c load). Lapping + better cooler than the Freezer 7 seems to be the best option for us :)
 
Big.Wayne said:
Lol hold on a sec, don't you think that last bit is a bit OTT! :D

Well, have you got a Tuniq Tower? No, but you're still recommending it as if it was going to solve all your problems. If you do have poor IHS contact then your best option is to return it.

Big.Wayne said:
Now your just being polite, where is the other option that says I'm a bimbling buffon that hasn't a clue ;)

Sometimes what you don't write is more important than what you do ;)

Big.Wayne said:
No actually since I took my system off auto it seems to have cooled a bit, really not sure what vCore is sets when its on auto P5B-Deluxe?

My chip really does appear flat (it has the bevelled ISH rather than a sharp edge ISH) as does the base of the Freezer pro 7.

Then it just sounds like the IHS isn't making good contact with the cores. Return the chip, don't lap it as it's not going to help you an awful lot.
 
WJA96 said:
Well, have you got a Tuniq Tower? No, but you're still recommending it as if it was going to solve all your problems.
Huh?
What you on about lol? I never recommended the Tuniq? :D

A heatsink ain't gonna solve all my problems, but it may help cool my CPu better :o
WJA96 said:
it just sounds like the IHS isn't making good contact with the cores. Return the chip
Like I said I did check to see if the chip was flat, did the optical test, laid a straight edge across the top and peered at it from the side, looks flat?

How can I return a chip that works? :confused:

So u think I'm a bimbling buffon eh :) or are u just defendind the Freezer 7 pro to the death!! ;)
 
Big.Wayne said:
Huh?
What you on about lol? I never recommended the Tuniq? :D

Indeed. I retract that statement.

Big.Wayne said:
A heatsink ain't gonna solve all my problems, but it may help cool my CPu better :o

You could have the biggest heatsink in the world, but if the heat transfer bottleneck is at the CPU cores you're not going to transfer any heat to the heatsink any faster. If you had better contact there then the Freezer Pro would work better, no?

Big.Wayne said:
How can I return a chip that works? :confused:

Return it and say it overheats. Say that you have heard it is possible to have poor contact between the core and the IHS and that you would like it exchanged for that runs properly cool.

Big.Wayne said:
So u think I'm a bimbling buffon eh :) or are u just defending the Freezer 7 pro to the death!! ;)

No, I don't think you're a bimbling buffoon. That was your suggestion. But your massively negative attitude in almost every thread I've encountered you in means that any attempt at assistance is ultimately doomed. Sorry, but that's how you're coming across to me.
 
WJA96 said:
You could have the biggest heatsink in the world, but if the heat transfer bottleneck is at the CPU cores you're not going to transfer any heat to the heatsink any faster. If you had better contact there then the Freezer Pro would work better, no?
Yup thats common sense right, but of course most of us know that. Never had to refit a heatsink, certainly never had to do it three times?
WJA96 said:
Return it and say it overheats. Say that you have heard it is possible to have poor contact between the core and the IHS and that you would like it exchanged for that runs properly cool.
haha thats very good, like the way u put that.

WJA96 said:
your massively negative attitude in almost every thread I've encountered you in means that any attempt at assistance is ultimately doomed. Sorry, but that's how you're coming across to me.
I guess your confusing me with someone else, probably the block who was recommending the Tuniq :D
 
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