Are you British or English, Scotish, Welsh or Nothern Irish

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I usually prefer British because it's accurate - I am a British citizen! And although I am English, in that both my parents and I grew up in England and I currently live in England, I feel connected to other parts of the UK too so British just feels like a better fit to me.
 
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You're still European since you were born in the continent of Europe.

Whether you are still an EU citizen (which is subtly different from being a citizen of an EU country) is something which I think will be up for debate for quite some time :(

The continent of Europe includes some, but not all Turks. As I said, that definition would also exclude millions of Russians in Asian Russia.

I just think it's a wishy washy term.

Defining by location of birth seems little better, for all sorts of reasons.

Defining "European" status by membership of the EU is even more problematic. I'm not getting into that one...
 
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I was born in London so once upon a time I would have proudly said Londoner but now I don't know what I'd call myself english probably then british.

I've lived in Wales for 6 years and by and large I've enjoyed it and the people are friendly but I am left in no doubt I am English. I try to explain that I'm a Mercian and it's my duty to launch arrows at them with my longbow but it falls on deaf ears.

Start rebuilding Offa's Dyke its your patriotic duty as a Mercian.
 
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I'm a person, then English, then UK-ish. Which is part of the issue - 'UK-ish' is a clumsy term. I'll say I'm from the UK. But in my head, the first nationality that comes to mind is "English".

I'm aware that many people are irrationally prejudiced against "the English" and don't even bother trying to hide it because it's a fashionable irrational prejudice. Those people can shove it up their arse. I'm not a fan of irrational prejudice, fashionable or not.

Strictly speaking I'm also Eurasian, but that's far too large an area to be relevant as a nationality.

I'm Nigerian then.

All my grandparents are 100% Irish but I've lived in England since I was about one month old.
I call myself English.

Because you are. Nationality is a state of mind thing. I'm one of the first generation of my family born in England. It's very likely that some of my ancestors fought against England. But I'm not them. I'm me. And I'm English. My heritage is that of Shakespeare and Chaucer and Dickens and William the ******* and all the rest of it. The fact that none of my ancestors (as far as I know) were in England in those days is irrelevant. They're not me.

Come to think of it, it's also very likely that some of the ancestors of most English people fought against England. Just a bit further back in time.
 
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In Taiwan, for example, my ID card was stamped English.

Was it? My Taiwanese ID card says 英國, which is Britain/UK.

As for the topic, British then English - half my family is Scottish, I grew up in England but went to uni in Scotland and stayed up there for 6 years, now in England, but would very much like to be back north.
 
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I was born in Scotland to Dutch and English parents, therefore the only accurate description would be European.

Anglo-Dutch would be more accurate, I know the UK is usually included as being a part of (continental) Europe but as Israel often is it shows what a farce that is and technically it's the British Isles in the North Atlantic.
 
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Anglo-Dutch would be more accurate, I know the UK is usually included as being a part of (continental) Europe but as Israel often is it shows what a farce that is and technically it's the British Isles in the North Atlantic.
The British Isles is part of Europe. Israel is not, it is in Asia. GB has always been Europe, as is part of Russia, Iceland, Scandanavia, The Shetlands, Ireland (it's entirety) and even Greenland I believe.

I know that there is a concerted effort by a few to say that the British Isles were never European but geographically they certainly are.

EDIT; Continental Europe is not a continent whereas Europe is. This may colour some people's thinking.
 
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I am an Englishman and British. Stating either is fine for they are facts.

I don't get the mindset of nationalism = racism. That is mainly a millennial mindset and in my case, wrong. I can't speak for others.
 
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If Scotland gains independence then I'll feel more British (i.e, happy to be part of a Union) as it's only those miserable ***** that have me have me feeling otherwise. :cry:
 
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