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Are you going to vote in local elections on May 2nd?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Cromulent, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Dolph

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    Not under the current leader and brexit policy, neither the lib Dems or the SNP would sign up with corbyn's labour.

    Of course, if they ditch corbyn and their brexit policy, Labour wouldn't need a coalition partner.
     
  2. No1newts

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    And that's the problem with people from the UK, someone says something in a posh accent and we swoon and blindly follow.
     
  3. azazl187

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    One does not simply follow, one will lead the masses
     
  4. No1newts

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    :D
     
  5. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    I watched that QT when he said that, and to be honest he didn't come across very well at all that night.
     
  6. No1newts

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    He didn't and what the poster and video neatly clipped was the moment he had a completed screaming hissy fit because someone disagreed with him. Yet because he has a posh accent people clap and agree, it's sadly British.
     
  7. V F

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    Tony Blair swooned them for 13 years (even appeared in the Simpsons and Eastenders supposedly) as did Barack Obama swoon the population for 8 years but it wasn't posh accents that did it. It's the charm they know how to play the population.

    As for Question Time and elections in general, most people are fickle. People on Question Time will usually always clap two different extreme answers on the same question. It's always usually and mostly the last speaker that makes the result. It is always why the politicians want their point or statement out at the last part of the show. Since most people usually remember the end.




    As for Caroline Lucas, she's hardly a sane person. https://youtu.be/lXnfYjWmnNE
     
  8. Cern

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    She was prepared to protest and be arrested for her beliefs. Why does that make her not sane?

    Should a sitting MP break the law, even for a cause that many would agree with? Well that's certainly a valid discussion. But I don't see why her sanity should be in question unless it's just a lazy attempt to smear her?
     
  9. Evangelion

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    I'll probably give them a miss this year.
     
  10. V F

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    She's a tree hugger. She'd rather have us sit with candles. Plus her whole manner. She is always antsy over most things, like a petulant child.
     
  11. StriderX

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    Why would she do that when she supports renewable energy? Do you really think she’s anti electronics?
     
  12. Cern

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    I see you have a balanced and nuanced view on this. I'm interested in hearing what your problem is with protecting and promoting the planting of trees given their role in controlling carbon emissions and as a wildlife habitat? And where in the Green Party manifesto does it mention we need to switch to candle power?
     
  13. D.P.

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    As it stands neither Labour nor Tories would get a majority, I highly expect Labour would have the most seats by a small margin but would be far short. The Tories have no options to form a majority. While the LibDems and SNP claim they wont work with Labour under labours current position, I am sure they would all support a supply nd confidence deal if Labour offered a (brexit) referendum and some other sweeteners in case of Brexit. Im sure the SNP will ask for an indy ref which labour would refuse.

    If no majority can be formed through any means then I believe the next step is simply another referendum. Hard to predict what would happen next but the 2 main parties would probably gain seats. I doubt it will make things any better for the likes of the lib dems.

    For these tertiary parties their only way forwards is through coalition. They can choose Tory or Labour, and Labour is a far easier buy-in for them. But then the libdems should have done that last time
     
  14. Cromulent

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    I don't think the Lib Dems will make the same mistake again.
     
  15. Bluntwrapped

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    Question time is full of plants and is only there to parrot and reinforce the British establishment/MSM consensus.

    The BBC should be ignored on all occasions.
     
  16. Dolph

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    What alternative would you suggest?
     
  17. RedvGreen

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    RT or Russia-1 ? :D:rolleyes:
     
  18. Cromulent

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    The Financial Times is a great source for news.
     
  19. Bluntwrapped

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    As much as it grates on my nerves to say it.. Social Media is one of the few platforms to distinguish genuine public feeling from establishment propaganda. International media manage quite well too.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/inew...act-of-radical-social-engineering-report/amp/

    Would the BBC ever discuss the ridiculousness of the situation - when the poor start blaming the poor for all life’s problems?

    Social Engineering hits the nail on the head.

    Britain is and always has been rotten to the core. Unfortunately it’s so inconvenient, most don’t want to know.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
  20. Cromulent

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    It is sad when people on benefits are blamed for all of the nation's problems even given the fact that it is immeasurably harder to get benefits than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Often the people on benefits are the ones that need the most help from society. What they don't need is to be labelled scroungers.