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Poll: Are you going to vote in the European Elections?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by BowdonUK, May 6, 2019.

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Who will you be voting for?

Poll closed May 23, 2019.
  1. Conservative

    2 vote(s)
    0.8%
  2. Labour

    8 vote(s)
    3.2%
  3. Liberal Democrat

    143 vote(s)
    56.7%
  4. Brexit

    58 vote(s)
    23.0%
  5. UKIP

    7 vote(s)
    2.8%
  6. SNP

    7 vote(s)
    2.8%
  7. Change UK

    3 vote(s)
    1.2%
  8. Green

    20 vote(s)
    7.9%
  9. DUP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Plaid Cymru

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  11. Independent

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Other party

    3 vote(s)
    1.2%
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  1. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    The CCTV footage is actual evidence which suggests otherwise. Just because someone is a pensioner it does not mean they are scrupulously honest. Either could be lying in this case, the CCTV footage would instantly prove it.
     
  2. GordyR

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 1, 2003

    Posts: 4,606

    Location: Essex

    The part I don't understand is how this whole notion of creating multiple small independent trade deals has managed to permeate popular opinion among brexiters, despite it's claimed benefits being an entirely fabricated notion by a small handful of politicians, and being completely in contradiction to all academic and economic opinion and evidence, and quite frankly, to basic common sense.
     
  3. McstylisT

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 8, 2008

    Posts: 1,706

    Location: ENGLAND !!

    Well yes i agree. Guess we will have to see on that.
     
  4. Avenged7Fold

    Capodecina

    Joined: Sep 12, 2012

    Posts: 11,567

    Location: Surrey

    I mean, it's not like Farage and co towards EU representation has changed so why would it be any difference if they could have done this differently for the last decade under a different party name with the same attitude...
     
  5. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    That would just be the start of the spending on resources to get everything we currently get from the EU. It costs a lot to duplicate it all and no one so far can explain what the benefits are to make this all worthwhile.
     
  6. StriderX

    Capodecina

    Joined: Mar 18, 2008

    Posts: 18,083

    Imagine thinking puritanical narcissists wouldn’t immediately use he EU to their own desires if they had majority power... farcical.

    If farage and his homies across the continent had any inkling of that, they’d pretty much immediately turn the EU into a unregulated ********.
     
  7. thenewoc

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 4,320

    Location: West Sussex, England

    But we've already voted to leave the EU so why would anyone want pro EU MEP's in a parliament were trying to vacate?
     
  8. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    It’s called democracy through democratic elections.
     
  9. thenewoc

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 4,320

    Location: West Sussex, England

    Of course, which is why people are voting for eurosceptic MEP's
     
  10. McBain

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 17, 2002

    Posts: 20,883

    Location: Lancs/London

    No one, the card went in the bin the second it soiled my floor.
     
  11. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    In democratic elections people can vote as they choose from the available options. In the UK I can understand the position of the Green Party, UKIP, Labour, Lib Dem’s, and to some extent the conservatives but it is clouded by their constant internal power struggle. The one I don’t understand and have asked on here many times is what are the economic benefits of the brexit party’s no deal WTO brexit. But this does not mean I think people have no democratic right to vote for it.
     
  12. Mr Badger

    Soldato

    Joined: Dec 27, 2009

    Posts: 6,011

    It might be the only thing the Brexit Party has actually been right about. :) I do know remainers that are still voting Labour, but the leavers seem to have jumped ship to the Brexit Party.
     
  13. GordyR

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 1, 2003

    Posts: 4,606

    Location: Essex

    It's worse still...

    The potential, even if ever fully realised after however many decades worth of negotiations, couldn't possibly come even close to our current arrangements. :(
     
  14. thenewoc

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 4,320

    Location: West Sussex, England

    Of course they can, I for one wasn't suggesting they couldn't. I was responding to the suggestion by @Avenged7Fold that he seemed to be suggesting that we vote for pro EU MEP's even though we've already voted to leave the EU. How would we leave the EU if we were voting to put a pro EU set of MEP's into the EU parliament?
     
  15. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    So far that is my view as well, I have asked posters like thenewroc to explain the alternative view but not had any detail at all so far. As always my view is not fixed but follows the known facts as events unfold.
     
  16. DarkHorizon472

    Mobster

    Joined: May 16, 2007

    Posts: 2,576

    Answer your own question, you will find it very useful.
     
  17. thenewoc

    Mobster

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 4,320

    Location: West Sussex, England

    Personally I don't believe it would be useful to elect pro EU MEP's since they will more likely agree to legislation binding us tighter to the EU rather than us splitting.
     
  18. Rotty

    Don

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 39,543

    Location: Notts

    yep, just looked at the betting odds and while I expected them to do well the bookies suggest a lot more

    they are 1/50 to win most seats
     
  19. Rilot

    Don

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 19,378

    Location: Wargrave, UK

    My wife was turned away from the polling station. This is even though we did the application to vote in the UK and received confirmation well before the deadline. She even has EU settled status. Her name was on the list with a line through it.
    I’m absolutely ******* furious. This is totally unacceptable and disgusting.
     
  20. Werewolf

    Commissario

    Joined: Oct 17, 2002

    Posts: 27,419

    Location: Panting like a fiend

    It's just as well that the "pro EU MEP's" don't get to decide national law and we in the UK have a veto that our own government can use then, isn't it?
     
  21. JRS

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jun 6, 2004

    Posts: 13,453

    Location: Burton-on-Trent

    :mad::mad:
     
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