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Article 13 of the EU copyright reform proposal rejected but they push ahead anyway

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by humbug, May 31, 2018.

  1. mid_gen

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    That's not how these things work.
     
  2. muon

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  3. Nasher

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    The people didn't want this law though and we don't get a vote on it. We should do as it's a huge change.
     
  4. muon

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    We don't get to vote on every law (in fact almost none). Not sure what you are getting at. Do you get consulted on the bills that go into parliament for a vote?
     
  5. Nasher

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    This is a huge rolling back of freedoms for the public, it's not quite the same. It's the sort of thing we normally only see in dictatorships...

    If they decided that people could no longer take photos without paying royalties to land owners, people would go nuts.
     
  6. Panos

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  7. Gigabit

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    Wait but I thought the EU was a dictatorship and the MEPs are powerless
     
  8. Tefal

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    So this was a vote on how to vote for the real vote?
     
  9. Nasher

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    A vote to indicate who still need bribing.
     
  10. fornowagain

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  11. Herojuana

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    Yayyyyyyyyyy....
     
  12. Nasher

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    I really hope we can get out before this comes in to force.

    Not that it's actually possible to enforce, it will be a disaster and a total embarrassment for the EU.
     
  13. Skunkworks

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    Imagine what the EU would do if it had an army.
     
  14. Martini1991

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    Doesn't matter whether we are part of the EU or not
    We don't have a UK only Internet and thus will be affected

    If nothing changes because it can't be enforced, then surely people are scare mongering?

    People have weird opinions on the Internet about how it should work and how it should almost be beyond the law.
     
  15. Fiocca

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  16. Freakbro

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    "Oh no me memes!"

    Isn't this the definition of first world problems? :p
     
  17. Nasher

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    We'll just have to use memes re-produced in paint to avoid "copyright" :D

    I can't wait to see the epic headache sites like piratebay are going to give them though. They'll start hosting images I bet.
     
  18. Martini1991

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    Why would they do that? Piratebay don't host content.
     
  19. StriderX

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    Honestly if it destroys the likes of the Daily Mail, i'm ok with that.

    Theres just no way they wont ask for payment for links, and that'll mean Google tell's them to **** off, like everyone else they did it to in Spain when they trial'd it, silver linings...

    Also practically destroys Facebook and Twitter, it actually makes Google many times more powerful, how very awkward.
     
  20. MikeTheNative

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    That doesn't explain how the tech implemented though. For example it says memes are still fine. Well in law they might be but if websites have to have an auto filter on content you can guarantee that they would be flagged up every time. You just have to see youtubes's content filtering ai which goes a bit over top quite a lot.