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Article 13 of the EU copyright reform proposal rejected but they push ahead anyway

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by humbug, May 31, 2018.

  1. Nasher

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    Youtube has been like that for years now, google too.

    If you want to continue using an open internet, you need a VPN now. Content blocking and censorship is appearing all over the place (including in the UK). Governments and corporations are inserting borders in to the digital world.
     
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  2. mid_gen

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    Mmm, love a bit of conspiracy theory paranoia on a Monday.

    Almost as entertaining as the hilariously anti-reality 'Get Woke, Go Broke' :)
     
  3. humbug

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    Pretty much, its not too dissimilar to this, and there are quite a lot of socialists in our politics now who would love to see this happen in our society.

     
  4. StriderX

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    It's already happened, we simply did it to ourselves freely, just gotta look on Instagram to see the result of it.

    China is just doing it in a blunt manner.
     
  5. dowie

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    Eh? Popular people on Instagram being compared with a social credit system that can impact whether you're allowed to even leave the country?
     
  6. Nasher

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    It's just asking to be hacked/abused for discounts and free stuff for having a "high score". I'd see a system like this is fair game tbh :p

    Actually, looking it up. It's already being done lol

    Though we kind of have a soft version of this already in the way of social media, which is why I don't use it. People (including employers) do look people up and pry in to their lives.
     
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  7. StriderX

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    No, i'm talking about the whole culture in the west currently, everyone chasing particular material wealth or obsessions off the back of what's "acceptable" at the time, i could be a misguided sense of belonging and groupthink, but i still think it resembles what China has officially co-opted to control their public's behaviour. You could say our's is a 'free' market variant.

    You can sort of leave the Western equivalent, but you'll be distinctly lonely.
     
  8. kindai

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    ADOPTED with 348 votes in favor, 274 against.
     
  9. grudas

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    that's what happens when people with little understanding get the chance to decide.

    I wonder how they expect platforms to filter uploads and check for copyright.
     
  10. humbug

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    That's the end of a free and open Internet in the EU. Like all good socialists they found away to control what information people see.
     
  11. jsmoke

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    It's article 17 now in case you didn't already know.
     
  12. humbug

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    Not 11 and 13? is it the same thing?

    Sorry, i haven't been following this in the last few weeks.
     
  13. Martini1991

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    That's not socialism.

    I take it that every single MEP from the UK was against this? Otherwise we can not blame the EU as a separate entity, as we are the EU.
     
  14. Panos

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    Thats what happens when uneducated imbesiles have the right to vote laws they do not understand.

    I will post the link of who voted on 2016/0280/COD from the EU Parliament as soon as they post the session file.
    As last time (September) it was almost all the British MEPs who voted in favour, including people from Labour and Lib Dems.

    FYI it will be found here when uploaded.

    https://oeil.secure.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?reference=2016/0280(COD)&l=en
     
  15. humbug

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    No but its what Socialist do, social construction through control of information.

    Most UK MEP's are onboard with the EU in their utopia construction.
     
  16. Panos

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    It is my friend. Socialism is exactly that, but in this case is not only socialists who push this legislation but all the uneducated corporate shills calling themselves MEPs.
     
  17. Martini1991

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    You're perverting the word to suit an agenda not aligned to the word.
    There's nothing wrong with socialist ideals (In that, things like a funded social care system that's government funded would be considered a socialist policy)
     
  18. StriderX

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    Risable, what the **** has it got to do with soclialism, it’s main proponents are media organisations, and a single (I think) lobby group for ‘creators’.

    This is very much the same drivel that affects the US that becomes essentially corporate welfare. Not socialism, it’s crony capitalism and the EU has always been economy first.
     
  19. humbug

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    This is not a mistake or a misunderstand by Boomers, they know exactly what they are doing.
     
  20. humbug

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    This is Socialism in action. Think of every Socialist state in history and this is what you get.

    The USSR, Venezuela, North Korea