Asking for a pay rise after 3 months?

Conanius said:
Totally agree.

YOU think you are gods gift in the role, and you've heard what could also be encouragement as they might perceive a lack of confidence/something.

You also need to be realistic as to what rise you get. If you came in on 18 and asked for 25 after 3 months and I was your boss..... Unless the sun literally shone out of your arse I'd laugh my face off/ tell you to be slightly more realistic and maybe offer 20k....
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Not all managers will be like this

I wouldnt necessarily leave it till last minute either, but it depends how important it is to you, if this is your first professional role then it may be the cost of getting your foot in the door

If your review is at 6 months, then at 5 months in make some time to be proactive and speak to him about how you are doing, get him to confirm that you are doing everything needed and more, then bring in to the conversation that you are enjoying it although you perhaps feel you might have been undervalued at the start before they had a chance to see your capabilities

refer back to them casting you into a junior/trainee position and therefore the salary you were offered is 18k

then set yourself aside from that, you have managed everything they've asked in your stride and are managing your own workload and have clearly established yourself to be more capable than a junior

keep it as civil/light hearted as possible, you are asking for something that your manager wont need to give you and your really just enquiring if he is willing to do a little more to keep you happy

by bringing it up in advance of completing your trial, you give him opportunity to get it cleared with HR before hand, who will need budget approval from the beancounters... if you wait till they present you with a contract, at that point its already agreed and they will have to go back with cap in hand, unlikely that it will work outside of a review cycle
 
Conanius said:
Totally agree.

YOU think you are gods gift in the role, and you've heard what could also be encouragement as they might perceive a lack of confidence/something.

You also need to be realistic as to what rise you get. If you came in on 18 and asked for 25 after 3 months and I was your boss..... Unless the sun literally shone out of your arse I'd laugh my face off/ tell you to be slightly more realistic and maybe offer 20k....
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He was bought in on a job advertised from 18 TO 30K, and stuck on 18k as they didn't know how he'd do and assumed he'd need training. They both haven't lost other peoples time with training, and have gotten MORE than they wanted out of him from the very start. If you are doing more than they ever hoped you could handle, and they were willing to pay 30k for someone to do less than you are doing, asking for 30k shouldn't be overkill, even if they decide experience levels long term mean they offer you a bit less.

18k is way way under what they expected to pay obviously. Don't ask, don't get, you now know what you can do, you now know they used to have 2 people doing less than the work you do now, you know have a strong position to bargain with and more importantly, you now have experience and the knowledge to apply for other jobs in the same roles which will likely be paid vastly better also.

Frankly I'd be looking around at other jobs, seeing if you can get an interview, seeing what they are worth money wise, at your 3 month review, ask for a dramatic pay rise, if they did lol at you, you could site the average pay for someone doing the same job at other places. Likewise if they don't want to pay you properly, you would know where you'd be in regards to going elsewhere on proper pay for the job as a backup.

If he's doing a job advertised at 30k, and he's doing more than wanted at 30k.... working an extra 3-9 months to ask for "real" pay and working for 35% less than you should be is just stupid.
 
drunkenmaster, are you trying to get the OP to loose the job?

He's unlikely to get 30k when he was offered 18k and accepted, i would expect him to be able to push for 24-25k as part of renegociation

My expectation would be that 30k would mean that he has X years prior experience in similar roles and a portfolio of previous work, If he got put into a junior position because he lacked those things then on the back of 3months work he wont be able to demand 12k more, its just unrealisitic and would likely be taken as arrogant and confrontational, they are likely to reconsider if they even want you as an employee to be making such demands after 3 months when he can be let go with a snap of a finger and with no legal platform to contest it

If the OP wants 30k, then he might be better off taking the job at somewhere in between 18-30k and then looking for a better job somewhere else, once he has an offer in hand he can go back to the employer and with the security that he has another option
 
3 months is barely any time at all. They'll question your seriousness in the job as you knew the salary when you took it.

Asking for a payrise so early is likely just to annoy them and increase your odds of being shown the door.

Wait longer, when you're completely gelled into the job, you'll have more bargaining power that way.
 
Employer has invested nothing in you so far, get ahead of yourself and they essentially lose nothing by letting you go. Give yourself more time and try to get some form of paid for training rather than pusing for a pay rise. Once they start to invest in you via training they're far less likely to let you go.
 
I'd wait 9 months to a year, start building a portfolio of your work for the company.

When your review comes up, discuss it then. Aim for 30k.

Don't be a douche, explain why you deserve to be in this role at that wage.

3 months is not a long time, wait until the though of losing you would really pose a problem, as opposed to being a shame,
 
I also reckon 3 months is too soon, especially in the current climate where many employers are trying to get out of increasing salaries.

You also have to ask yourself questions that only you really have a better answer for....

- Are you easily replaceable?
- Are you generating a substantial amount of extra revenue or service for the company which means they would be at a loss to loose you?
- If you did leave or used that as bargaining chip, is three months at the company enough time to gain the job experience you need in the role to further your career?

All these kind of things factor into it.
Personally I'd wait at least 6 months before even asking for a review.
 
Theres a difference between getting your salary 'corrected' before you come out of probation and just demanding a huge rise.

a lot of companies cap their rises at a certain percentage, like mine will only give a raise of upto 10%, if he starts at 18k then the biggest rise he can get in that scenario is 1.8k and he'd have to work with them 4-5 years to get upto 30k

And the longer you work for the lesser amount the less reason they have to give you more, if your a such a pushover that you want the job so much that you will do it for 9 months at 18k.. well why would you leave if you only got another £2k in your review, if you challenge it early on then you avoid that, they obviously want to employ you and its just negociation

The important thing is to take the right approach, and your relationship with your line manager might be a factor, but I wouldnt recommend anyone play the subservient chicken role in their job if they want to be a respected employee.
 
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