If astrology is real, then why is it that your birth is the determining factor? Why not conception date? Does the womb provide adequate protection from the "unknown rays" whilst someone is in the womb? Do these rays effect animals too? How come eveyone's personality is different? How do the "celestial bodies" know when you are born? Nero please provide a link to what you call "real" astrology, then we can debate "real" astrology.