Asus 780i is total pantS?

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 16:50

Smirnoff said:
In a £180 high end board it is cheapo ram

Don't be stupid.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 17:46

Robert said:
Don't be stupid.

The stupid thing is putting ram in a board that doesnt like it....

Rroff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:04

Stupid thing is making a motherboard that doesn't like mainstream memory...

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:07

Rroff said:
Stupid thing is making a motherboard that doesn't like mainstream memory...

From a top manufacturer like Corsair. The fact is RAM is dirt cheap now.

By your silly logic - we shouldn't be putting £300 graphics cards in to £100 motherboards...but oh wait they work fine.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:08

As i have said many times before it need high end memory, OCZ SLI, Reaper, Dominator. Its like blaming a 250w Qtech supply for not running a GT.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:20

Robert said:
From a top manufacturer like Corsair. The fact is RAM is dirt cheap now.

By your silly logic - we shouldn't be putting £300 graphics cards in to £100 motherboards...but oh wait they work fine.

£180 Motherboard
£400 2x GTX
£170 Q6600
£170 1k power supply
£40 ram...

Rroff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:26

It should still work fine with £40 RAM... even if it doesn't produce the best results it should still work fine...

Sounds like 780i is as shoddy as the 680i and the faster people accept that the better... or nVidia and/or the board partners actually do something abou it...

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:33

I've used both the 680i and 780i they both have there problems but the 780i is a vast improvment over the older boards, tbh whats the point in building a highend SLI rig with £40 ram. A 600w windpower PSU should run a GT but it doesnt, life is strange like that

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:34

Smirnoff said:
£180 Motherboard
£400 2x GTX
£170 Q6600
£170 1k power supply
£40 ram...

What the hell are you comparing a Qtec to corsair RAM for?

Oh it isn't £40 and why should he need any higher speed? He wants 3.2ghz = 400*8.

So please explain why it won't work other than your bull **** comments about it being cheap. The ram is fine and should be fine...so what the hell is the problem? Have you seen the prices of ram? OMGZ THE REAPER IS CHEAP SO DON'T USE IT!!!!!!!1111111111

Rroff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:40

OCZ Reaper on a 650i board is good

almost hit 12GB/s bandwidth and thats keeping the voltages strictly to 2.1 max... with 2.2 or beyond it would take off.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 18:49

Robert said:
What the hell are you comparing a Qtec to corsair RAM for?

Oh it isn't £40 and why should he need any higher speed? He wants 3.2ghz = 400*8.

So please explain why it won't work other than your bull **** comments about it being cheap. The ram is fine and should be fine...so what the hell is the problem? Have you seen the prices of ram? OMGZ THE REAPER IS CHEAP SO DON'T USE IT!!!!!!!1111111111

It just doesnt work plain and simple, getting all worked up and angry isnt going to solve it. OCZ SLI, Reaper and Dominator work 100%, When i try Corsair ram it wouldnt post of would just lock loading windows. After this its pretty easy to see that cheap memory doesnt work where as the more expenive stuff does. I dont know if its a BIOS issue or a flaw with the chipset.

I was more comparing you blind fath that any ram will work with people that thing that any powersupply will work with highend GFX cards when they cleary dont.

Researching a new build is a good idea before blindly buying parts, Then getting all pissy when they dont work.

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 20:08

It isn't my PC mate so your point is void and you are wrong. We have tried other types of ram e.g. geil. We know people with Corsair working. Again..look reaper is cheap so surely that won't work, by your logic at least

The board's going back anyway and I think he'll get the
Asus P5N32-E SLi

And any ram? What the hell? We where talking about Corsair XMS ram - which is very decent stuff.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 20:29

I take it hes running the 0602 bios thats fixed a lot of isues with this board, If he has then just swap the ram for another brand that works. Its not the wisest move downgrading to the now dead 680i platform.

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 20:40

Smirnoff said:
I take it hes running the 0602 bios thats fixed a lot of isues with this board, If he has then just swap the ram for another brand that works. Its not the wisest move downgrading to the now dead 680i platform.

They are basically the same boards? The only major difference could be the power design and PCI-E 2.0 (which isn't native anyway).

He has tried other RAM and the 0602 bios. He has got as far as running 3dmark but prime or games just crash straight away.

Smirnoff · 20 Jan 2008 at 21:37

Well i've had 4 evga 680i ( 3 broke within a week) i've played with a lot of the P5N-T's they can be dogs but when there working there a nice board much better than the 680i. I've flash the bios about 30 times in my test one and but all maner of extream voltages thought it and havent killed it yet. Its like a fine woman it need to be treated right

If hes still having problems it could be duff, If he got it from overclockers get him to take the board and the ram in for testing.

helmutcheese · 20 Jan 2008 at 21:43

Robert said:
They are basically the same boards? The only major difference could be the power design and PCI-E 2.0 (which isn't native anyway).

He has tried other RAM and the 0602 bios. He has got as far as running 3dmark but prime or games just crash straight away.

No they are not.

The 780 has a NEW Northbridge and a REVISION of the same Southbridge, then an ADDITIONAL PCI 2.0 Bridge Chip.

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 21:57

helmutcheese said:
No they are not.

The 780 has a NEW Northbridge and a REVISION of the same Southbridge, then an ADDITIONAL PCI 2.0 Bridge Chip.

hardwaresecrets said:
nForce 780i is in fact a propelled version of 680i: they both use the same north bridge chip. The only difference between the two is that 780i uses a small nForce 200 bridge chip to allow PCI Express 2.0. The communication between nForce 780i and nForce 200 is done thru an overclocked PCI Express 1.0 path. Then nForce 200 makes the connection with the three x16 PCI Express slots available. Two of them are 2.0 and one of them is 1.0. All three slots work at x16 rate when SLI mode is enabled, which is great.

Anandtech said:
Since 780i is 680i with an added chip to support PCI 2.0 and two more x16 PCIe ports, it looked for a while as if NVIDIA might actually skip the 780i launch and wait until the DDR3 generation for a new chipset launch. Refinements for Penryn compatibility were completed and NVIDIA worked with Intel for Penryn family (Yorkfield quad-core and Wolfdale dual-core) compatibility certification.

So....

Locky · 20 Jan 2008 at 22:29

well.... before we go further here, make sure your not filling all the memory banks, this board doesnt like this, try slots 1 - 3 first, install the 602 bios which fixes a lot of issues and makes the board usable, do not play with the voltages at all leave them on auto, set the bus to linked and ram to linked, if all fails then this ram isnt going to work with this board.

Try this.... http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-090-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813

or this... http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-105-OC&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813

Or better still get the 8500 versions, but im 100% sure this board is VERY picky with ram and doesnt like all 4 banks filled.

Ps Dont put Crucial Ballistix ram in either, this will not work.

Robert · 20 Jan 2008 at 22:43

He is only filling 2 slots.

The board won't post unless overclocked.

V|per · 20 Jan 2008 at 22:51

TiZoR said:
Ps Dont put Crucial Ballistix ram in either, this will not work.

I'm assuming this comment is only directed at the 780i users...