Asus TUF B450 and Ryzen 3600 No Display

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:10

I've just received the new components for a build I'm making for my son and its giving no display?

It's an Asus TUF b450 plus gaming motherboard and amd ryzen 5 cpu.

I've researched it a little and beleive it might mean the motherboard needs an update and that it can either be done via USB stick and flash bios updater or by sticking an older amd cpu in it... Which I don't have and really hoping I don't have to do

Any help would be appreciated!

Minibiker · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:24

Well according to the site below, your board should support the CPU... I'm not 100% so don't take my word, I know the MSI Max 450 boards have worked for others out the box, ASUS on the other hand I haven't seen many mentioned

https://www.pcgamesn.com/asus/amd-ryzen-3000-motherboard-compatibility-msi?amp

Jamin280672 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:34

Liamb2005 said:
I've just received the new components for a build I'm making for my son and its giving no display?

It's an Asus TUF b450 plus gaming motherboard and amd ryzen 5 cpu.

I've researched it a little and beleive it might mean the motherboard needs an update and that it can either be done via USB stick and flash bios updater or by sticking an older amd cpu in it... Which I don't have and really hoping I don't have to do

Any help would be appreciated!

That board wont support a RyZen 3000 out of the box and as far as I can tell looking at the ASUS website, it doesnt have any bios Flashback feature, so your 2 choices are, get yourself a cheap 2nd gen CPU and use it to flash the bios on the board then sell the CPU on afterwards, or send the board back and get an MSI MAX motherboard which is the only B450 boards guaranteed to run RyZen 3000 CPU's out of the box, other than X570 of course.

Phixsator · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:36

Find someone in your area of reach with a Zen or Zen+ cpu who you can visit for a brief moment for a flash. Im sure someone will lend a hand. Or go to the dealer and have them do it. I would be happy to help you but i live in Denmark so tough cookie.

tamzzy · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:37

Jamin280672 said:
or send the board back and get an MSI MAX motherboard which is the only B450 boards guaranteed to run RyZen 3000 CPU's out of the box, other than X570 of course.

@Liamb2005
this is the better choice.
the asus b450 tuf isn't a good board by any stretch of the imagination

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:43

Minibiker said:
Well according to the site below, your board should support the CPU... I'm not 100% so don't take my word, I know the MSI Max 450 boards have worked for others out the box, ASUS on the other hand I haven't seen many mentioned

https://www.pcgamesn.com/asus/amd-ryzen-3000-motherboard-compatibility-msi?amp

Thanks appreciate it but think it just means it supports it so not specifically of the box.

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:45

Jamin280672 said:
That board wont support a RyZen 3000 out of the box and as far as I can tell looking at the ASUS website, it doesnt have any bios Flashback feature, so your 2 choices are, get yourself a cheap 2nd gen CPU and use it to flash the bios on the board then sell the CPU on afterwards, or send the board back and get an MSI MAX motherboard which is the only B450 boards guaranteed to run RyZen 3000 CPU's out of the box, other than X570 of course.

Thanks for confirming for me I appreciate it.

Jamin280672 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:46

This was one of the best B450 boards made.....if not one of the best, was the actual best, MSI re-released it recently with a larger bios chip and supports RyZen 3000 out of the box.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33t-ms.html

Just make sure if you do go for this board and decide to flash the bios on it in the future, you get the Tomahawk MAX bios, not the regular Tomahawk bios, they are both the same boards, one just has a different bios chip.

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:46

tamzzy said:
@Liamb2005
this is the better choice.
the asus b450 tuf isn't a good board by any stretch of the imagination

Really is it that bad? I won't lie it's probably put me off asus for life now but the thought of taking this entire build apart does not seem appealing at all!

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:49

Jamin280672 said:
This was one of the best B450 boards made.....if not one of the best, was the actual best, MSI re-released it recently with a larger bios chip and supports RyZen 3000 out of the box.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33t-ms.html

Will this fit in the fractal mesh c case okay?

Jamin280672 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:51

Liamb2005 said:
Will this fit in the fractal mesh c case okay?

Yes, its an ATX board the same as the ASUS board you have.

tamzzy · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:54

Liamb2005 said:
Really is it that bad?

find your board on the x470/b450 tier list. hint: it's near the bottom

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 18:57

Phixsator said:
Find someone in your area of reach with a Zen or Zen+ cpu who you can visit for a brief moment for a flash. Im sure someone will lend a hand. Or go to the dealer and have them do it. I would be happy to help you but i live in Denmark so tough cookie.

Thanks mate appreciate it, I've asked around but nobody has an old ryzen they are either Intel or older amds like the f.

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 19:00

tamzzy said:
find your board on the x470/b450 tier list. hint: it's near the bottom

Right Well that's that decided lol. It's going back!!

Liamb2005 · 12 Sep 2019 at 19:00

Jamin280672 said:
Yes, its an ATX board the same as the ASUS board you have.

This asus 450 gaming is the micro atx I got this because I read the full sized one might be tight in the meshify c case

tamzzy · 12 Sep 2019 at 19:05

Liamb2005 said:
I read the full sized one might be tight in the meshify c case

nah its fine

Jamin280672 · 12 Sep 2019 at 19:30

Liamb2005 said:
This asus 450 gaming is the micro atx I got this because I read the full sized one might be tight in the meshify c case

As long as its the standard Meshify C and not the mini one, it will fit fine, the mini one only support micro ATX boards.

If you are unsure though, you can always get this board instead: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450m-mortar-max-socket-am4-ddr4-matx-motherboard-mb-348-ms.html

Its exactly the same as the Tomahawk I linked earlier, just its little brother and micro ATX and still supports RyZen 3000 out of the box.

Drumroll · 12 Sep 2019 at 20:54

Doesn't this motherboard accept bios update without a CPU, via dedicated rear usb?

gpuerrilla · 12 Sep 2019 at 22:04

No that was the vishera FX one as I had that. I bought this and found the hard way too. I sent back to OcUK and they flashed it for me. PIA but oh well.

Not a garbage board though seen plenty of remarks made about all other B450 boards that are under a ton.

gpuerrilla · 12 Sep 2019 at 22:15

tamzzy said:
find your board on the x470/b450 tier list. hint: it's near the bottom

I tried to make some sense of this. All the x470 boards start at £120+ (decent ones about £150) but theres a reason people go for the B450 is the boards are much cheaper. They are basically saying all b450s are 'lower end' .. which we already knew compared to the x470 and x570 offerings. What makes this more subjective is the small writing 'would require airflow for a highly clocked 2700x'.

Well firstly hes got a 3600 so not exactly the same cpu and secondly anyone overclocking should have good airflow - period. lol.